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    The dresser has 400 slots x_x. Do you need 20,000 slots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The dresser has 400 slots x_x. Do you need 20,000 slots?
    You know, it can go very fast to fill them when you unlock all jobs -I mean to reach at least level 30- (craft/war/gathering) and/or all roles (it gives even more possibilities if you unlock at least all 80 roles). Between job locked gears and shared gears, since there are six slots left side, five slots (six if we consider left hand) right side, 400 is not that much.

    EDIT : Imagine we consider an extrem case, you do all the relics and all the glowing weapons
    ARR -> 9 jobs, 7ex (crafted weapons), one relic, one glowing with tomes : 90 weapons (9*(9+1) because of PLD shields)
    HW -> 11 jobs, 7ex, one relic : 99 (11 * (8+1))
    SB -> 13 jobs, 8Ex, one relic : 130 (13*(9+1))
    ShB -> 15 jobs, 3Ex (old -I don't consider last and current one-), one relic : 60 (15*3+1)
    Total : 379 glowing weapons.

    I do know it is an extrem case, but if you consider AF gears (job gears), some crafted/dungeons/alliance/savage gears, people who do all job will rather easily use the available slots.

    EDIT (2) : In fact it can be worst since each relic has several steps 4 non glowing, 4 glowing.

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    Last edited by Eldevern; 06-13-2020 at 03:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post

    EDIT (2) : In fact it can be worst since each relic has several steps 4 non glowing, 4 glowing.

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    But you're not going to be using them all.. Pick two at a time, decide which one you like better, delete the other. Repeat until you're down to one per job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    But you're not going to be using them all.. Pick two at a time, decide which one you like better, delete the other. Repeat until you're down to one per job.
    It was theorical, to show how fast it can go. But with a more global look on the question :

    Considering the time some gears and weapons require to get them, I will not delete them (it is different for the "glamour" copy though). And what if I wish to change? Should I grind again? Hell no.

    If we do savage, we will not do them each time we feel in mood to use a glamour coming from them, same goes for Ex or Alliance (for a part because there is RNG). Only the relic can be different since there is a glamour we can buy (but there are conditions).

    16 war jobs, 8 crafting jobs, 3 gathering jobs, we already have 162 options for the left side (297 for the right side, 309 if we consider secondary weapon/tool).

    I've not reached 400 on my main but I don't do savage and don't feel in mood to do some old Ex solo but considering I've already reached 360 (more or less) on my main, it's not difficult to see with Ex weapons or Savage gears I would have reached 400 already. And I don't do the right side at all.


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    Back to the housing problem, if we start to use glitches or make collections, it can go really fast to use all slots. Somehow, it allow to understand why they did housing so little, even with enough slots, the area we can use can end to be too little even with slots available XD
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 06-16-2020 at 04:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    It was theorical, to show how fast it can go. But with a more global look on the question :

    Considering the time some gears and weapons require to get them, I will not delete them (it is different for the "glamour" copy though). And what if I wish to change? Should I grind again? Hell no.

    If we do savage, we will not do them each time we feel in mood to use a glamour coming from them, same goes for Ex or Alliance (for a part because there is RNG). Only the relic can be different since there is a glamour we can buy (but there are conditions).

    16 war jobs, 8 crafting jobs, 3 gathering jobs, we already have 162 options for the left side (297 for the right side, 309 if we consider secondary weapon/tool).

    I've not reached 400 on my main but I don't do savage and don't feel in mood to do some old Ex solo but considering I've already reached 360 (more or less) on my main, it's not difficult to see with Ex weapons or Savage gears I would have reached 400 already. And I don't do the right side at all.


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    Back to the housing problem, if we start to use glitches or make collections, it can go really fast to use all slots. Somehow, it allow to understand why they did housing so little, even with enough slots, the area we can use can end to be too little even with slots available XD
    Using relic weapons is a bad example because most, if not all have replicas available for sale, so you don't have to grind them all over again or if you prefer a step further back. They're actually examples of things you don't need to put on the dresser, because it's so easy to buy them back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
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    Did you actually read me? I will quote myself :


    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    It was theorical, to show how fast it can go.

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    Only the relic can be different since there is a glamour we can buy (but there are conditions).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The dresser has 400 slots x_x. Do you need 20,000 slots?
    Accessories alone can eat up the impossible amount of place if you want to wear same set on all jobs (5 same looking items for 4 slots = 20 slots in dresser already). This or you will need to care them always in your inventory, which also eats space and takes prisms for glamouring.
    I'm myself didn't max current 400 slots yet but I'm near to it, and I easily can imagine it being not enough for a lot of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The dresser has 400 slots x_x. Do you need 20,000 slots?
    To add to what's already been said. Just take AF gear alone. There are at least 3 sets for almost all DoW classes (minus blu/dnc/gnb that have 2 iirc) so that's 3x(5x15) + 3x(5x2) = 255. Lets say that in addition to this you have at least one weapon per job +19. Now add relics, lets say you aren't crazy and get maybe 3-4 per expansion, each of those have 2-3 variations you enjoy. That's an added 18-36 slots.
    Ok now lets turn towards our crafters and gatherers. Lets say we aren't that big on glam for these so we have maybe 2 gathering clams and 3-4 crafter glams that's an added 25-30 items. We want nice tools for our DoH/DoL but we don't care for secondary tool, that's an added 11 slots.

    We're already at a grand total 328-351 slots.
    There are 11 equitable slots so that leaves you with enough room for ~4 extra items per slot and I still haven't talked about:
    - ANY accessories
    - Mogstation items
    - Raiding gear
    - Dungeon gear
    - Crafted gear glam for DoW
    - Deep dungeon weapons
    - Ultimate weapons (~47)
    - People who farm all relics (~42 base ones, each have at least 5 steps)
    - Relic gear
    - Tombstone gear
    - etc.

    Keep in mind at this point we don't even have ANY custom glam gear for our DoW, just the AF gear. 400 is so little. It should be doubled at least even though I would settle for 200 more slots. The feature is behind one expansion in terms of available slots.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 06-13-2020 at 01:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The dresser has 400 slots x_x. Do you need 20,000 slots?
    Yes, or a better system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The dresser has 400 slots x_x. Do you need 20,000 slots?
    400 isn't enough to be honest considering new gear/wear come out every few months in various dungeons/PVP/raids/crafting/Mogstation.

    Sadly some items cannot be placed in Armoire either. Like the mogtome items or newer glam items bought from mogstation.
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