Why people still USE ACT knowing their breaking TOS ??

[Awha]

What other reason is there to such tool?
It's an innacurate tool to meassure other people's performance. Why innacurate? Because people only upload parses to their convenience. I'd be happy if they shut it down.

It is extremely accurate, if you break down it is a wonderful tool that allows someone to break down the entire fight from start to finish allowing either a person or a group figure out what when wrong which allows a group to figure out how to fix it. Sure it is not perfect no tool really is, but it is a valuable tool nonetheless. Just because some may use to it lord over others does not mean the tool itself is inherently bad. Just as if someone calls another player bad in a not so friendly manner does not mean the words ring any less true.

I used to care about my logs beecause it bothered me that people uploaded without my permission. Fflogs should be opt in by default.

I once hid my profile, but then I said "Fine, if you want to feel better uploading practice/clear party numbers because you've already cleared and are good at the fight, do it". I haven't looked at fflogs since.

Lots of people are harrassed by that info that was uploaded without their consent. You are all assuming the best use case scenario, when in reality it's been used everyday to harrass or exclude players.

I get what you are saying but disliking something because of a few bad apples is odd, things are often not that simple.

[Katie_Kitty]

Seeing streamers using these on their stream and also non raiders (group parties/dungeons) maybe ffxiv need to add their own version of parsing to remove need of addons/plugins ???

Because banning ACT is a stupid rule.

[Videra]

Because banning ACT is a stupid rule.

Preach. FFlogs and ACT are useful tools for self-improvement and filtering out poorer players that would weigh down a group.

[Colt47]

Preach. FFlogs and ACT are useful tools for self-improvement and filtering out poorer players that would weigh down a group.

It would probably be better to understand why someone is underperforming than to simply exclude them on the basis of their first witnessed performance. There's no real way in game to get good feedback on exactly what qualifies as adequate dps. The dps test they have in game is sort of lackluster, not to mention not a lot of people even do it.

[Jaelommiss]

Parsing sucks, because it doesn't really speak about a player's worth when it comes to healing.

This is laughably incorrect.

The damage percentile alone doesn't tell the entire story when it comes to assessing healers, but it's not worthless. In combination with the other high-level information, such as healing amount and overheal percent, it becomes incredibly helpful. I've also been in charge of recruitment for my static this tier. I can usually get a decent sense for how someone heals by looking at a few of their past clears. Is this applicant a good healer who has been hampered by their previous groups or cohealers? I can see that. Is this a lazy overhealer who doesn't carry their weight? I can see that too.

If that's not what you need, then you can dive into the details to see where resources and CDs are being wasted and find ways to improve. I've helped six healers get their first savage clears this expansion, and being able to review their logs was vital for giving them individualized feedback about where they can improve. The ones who were most interested in reviewing their logs with me are all high blue to high purple for damage and dramatically reduced their overhealing without forcing their cohealer to pick up any slack. Improving their damage output came as a consequence of improving their healing. They waste less resources, have fewer deaths, and see cleaner clears. I wouldn't have considered any of them for my static based on their previous performance, but because they parsed their runs and chose to use that information they are now excellent players who are great to coheal with.

[Videra]

It would probably be better to understand why someone is underperforming than to simply exclude them on the basis of their first witnessed performance. There's no real way in game to get good feedback on exactly what qualifies as adequate dps. The dps test they have in game is sort of lackluster, not to mention not a lot of people even do it.

You misunderstand: A DPS joins the group, the group leader checks their logs, the DPS is consistently gray across the board. So the group leader understandably removes them. That's what I'm saying. You can also easily look at their logs to see -why- they're gray.

[Colt47]

You misunderstand: A DPS joins the group, the group leader checks their logs, the DPS is consistently gray across the board. So the group leader understandably removes them. That's what I'm saying. You can also easily look at their logs to see -why- they're gray.

I think you misunderstand. It's the leaders fault for inviting the person to the group before checking their logs. Second, it's also reasonable to figure out if the person simply didn't know something key about their job because it's likely they never even knew they were gray parsing. Third, if they had no logs prior to being invited and they had a gray parse, that isn't enough evidence to boot the person from the group. ACT is not a DPS meter and was never intended to fill that role. It was meant to be an analysis tool that lets groups improve more effectively, and using it as a way to single out and judge others pre-maturing because some leader is having a personal struggle with clearing a savage fight is not going to make the content any easier to clear.

As I said earlier, everyone is struggling and everyone needs something to lean on. If you want to overcome challenges be patient with people and yourself. The only thing within the power of a group leader is to express your own expectations to others and be honest with the people you bring aboard. The greatest challenge isn't clearing savage, really: It's helping others overcome their own limitations, which was what ACT was supposed to be for. It's not the headsman's Axe.

[PharisHanasaki]

This is laughably incorrect.

Did you read all my posts, or did you just took this out of context?

I've had multiple healers in multiple jobs come in and do 0 heal, only dps. Even the PLD did more heal than them.

[PharisHanasaki]

If I am trying to, for example, farm Ruby Weapon, I have every right to kick a Grey SAM from my group. That isn\\'t harassment, that\\'s just removing dead weight from a party. End of.

Thanks for proving my point.

[Venoshock-]

Thanks for proving my point.

Your point wasn't proven. That isn't harassment. If you're literally under performing by a large margin, so much so that you parse grey, other people have to work harder to cover up for that. DPS checks are a thing you know. Yes, you do deserve a kick from the team in a team based game where the team have to all equally contribute to complete the objective.

Why does he get to slack off and parse grey, clear the fight, roll on loot whilst other people have to learn their class and bust their ass off to cover for his terrible dps? Man, I wish I could be lazy and get carried through the game and get cool stuff at the expense of others.

If everyone parsed grey, you'd wipe to dps checks. I'd kick him too.