Suggesting Ideas for Blue Mage with feedback & Removing Limited Job Status

[TeraTyrantShadic]

Well... since there is no more suggestions or ideas being said to Blue Mage. I believe we should now change our focus to... Should we really have Limited Job Status? I'll go ahead and start us off saying no, its not a good idea or a good system. It is limiting a lot of current content game from these classes and we have no idea how it even come into the game, but at the same time its not yet complete so at this point in time of the post. Limited Job status is really bad, since you cannot randomly queue in Duty Finder but must queue as a normal party of 4 or 8 players.

[BasicBlake]

Yes we should have limited jobs. We don't need BLU in current content. They would have to remove a lot of the fun gimmicky aspects of the class. It's been really fun content for what it is!

[Awha]

Limited jobs done in such a way that push the boundaries as to what can be done when balance is not a concern would be fun. Sadly, BLU is still chained by the shackles of balance. Moving forward limited jobs if more are added they should be free that any balance concerns. Put job identity over everything else.

[Morningstar1337]

I feel like Limited Jobs are necessity for certain Classes lest they are bared from the game at all for they are impossible to balance without neutering job identity.

But I also want them to be exactly 20 Levels behind current content (and to use higher level gear as Glam somehow) (this also applies to Squads)

With all that said the number of times the Limited Job card is played should be well, Limited. In fact the only other Job I can think of that can work better as a limited job would be Puppetmaster (Beastmaster can work as a regular job, but it'd be close to SMN) And in fact I think the idea works best on classes that run on collection and using said collection in battle much like BLU itself.

[SpiralMask]

still gotta stress that "job identity" is something the devs choose themselves (since most every class in the series that's had more than one appearance has multiple implementations--or can be altered to suit eorzean lore in the first place), but on the topic of Limited jobs in general:

if they're gonna treat them like they have with BLU? no. hell no, nobody deserves to see their favorite class get so hobbled.
if they're actually gonna go wild and make them as extreme as they can be? sure, because balance is already out the window by design--but this should only be a last resort.

MMO's are a game to play with others and face challenges together in--having a class that is cordoned off from all human contact (even your supposed fellow members) is counterproductive in the majority of situatons.
for example, if beastmaster got most of it's content out of Hunts, it would both allow it to go wild in it's design and still allow for working/playing with others, as the hunt community and infrastructure is already there, and everything is overworld so there's little need to require premade parties for much-if-anything outside of the quick normal drop-in drop-out parties for the span of a world boss. (and im ten thousand percent sure that people would be upset at such a design missing out on the dreams of completing raid or other relevant, actually challenging content over so arbitrary a design choice--much like BLU now)

[basketofseals]

Yeah honestly I wouldn't want to see more limited jobs. I enjoy BLU a lot, but people weren't wrong to be upset knowing they'd never be able to mainline their favorite FF job.

[Mariel_Crystallie]

Well as limited job is not bad , but they really need more original content for BLU outside the carnival. Like some special raid that designed for BLU only not even the normal job could enter.

[ShariusTC]

i am honestly dont want they remove BLU from limited job, this job currentlyis the best job to farm aurum valley for moogle event which will come at the end of each patch, image how horrible to farm these with just normal party

[ReiMakoto]

i am honestly dont want they remove BLU from limited job, this job currentlyis the best job to farm aurum valley for moogle event which will come at the end of each patch, image how horrible to farm these with just normal party

With an organised team aurum vale still takes less than 10 mins due to expansion power creep, blu on saves 3 ish more mins due to missle/ doom working on the bosses

[ReiMakoto]

On the topic of more limited jobs? Absolutely not for a few reasons. Firstly, sameyness. If you were to make another limited job, say beastmaster, how would it be different to BLU in terms of what it can do? BLU can already use ever status ailment and can instant kill some enemies, whilst also being able to "tank" (poorly) and heal. How would a bst be different to this outside of the gimmick of having the attacks come from pets rather than spells.

The second thing is resources. Introduction of more limited jobs will almost certainly mean they cannibalise each other. BLU is already very infrequently updated, looking at once a years worth of updates at best. Having now 2 limited jobs means youve now got to develop content for both of them, do they share a level cap, if so youve doubled your workload for niche content unless you scale back on what they each get.

Finally, theres balance. BLU is currently balanced against itself and to an extent other jobs (blus baseline dps is inline with level 60 versions of other jobs, the powerful spells like mimicry and final sting push it far above). Adding more limited jobs into the mix, they will need to be balanced against eachother if they are to play in the same content and if they do a poor job of it it could lead to a fracturing of an already small community.

This is all aside from my personal distaste for limited jobs as a concept. Square has arbitrarily defined job identity as something to be waved around to excuse their decision. But what does BLU do in their raids despite their OP identity and such? If theyre dps they play like a normal dps job outside of the rare occasion an add can be level 5 deathed, or the boss reached final sting percent. Ive also brought blu into dungeons alongside a normal party and again outside of death skills (and rams voice lasting a long ass time) it again just plays like a dps.

I hope the fan theory comes true that beastmaster will be the Bozja front line version of logos actions, id consider that a fate better than limited jobs