Time to end the theft of home and bots - GIVE MORE WARDS-!

[Shougun]

Just going to meekly cry for instanced housing, which I could go on at length to why I think they're better in general and better for this particular style of theme park mmo but I'll keep it short this once XD. (or that while they don't axe FFXIV right this second, that they're secretly working on their next MMO to release in a few years, and that has instanced housing).

Also imo adding more wards makes the wards less interesting unless they add them specifically per bursting at the seams need, as if they just add more so people can have the location / size / style they want then they'll damage the whole purpose of the wards and so they have to keep things tightly packed.

On instance, if you've friends, I believe it can do a better neighborhood like Wild Star did with it's far more personal more powerful neighborhood. The downside of that system was you had to know them in advance (to become neighbors), unlike here where you can have strangers for neighbors. At no point when talking about FFXIV do I think they should kill their wards because I think it sucks to lose something you like though. Yet I do think they could still add full, and more, powered every player instanced housing like system to this game without killing wards and without leaving ward users behind by adding the option of an instanced house for all players and leaving ward spots limited (MSQ and progression can be some gates to prevent massive data allocate to those who'll barely play the game, like ShB has a key area / magic concept that could really inspire taking housing to another level), those who own a ward spot get an outdoor postal address/yard to mess with (as they already have) and also get the instanced interior (already have) / instanced pocket world exterior (new to them) that all instanced users will get. So pay a bit extra to get a physical decorate-able PO box basically.

Although on a far more comprising yet probably still satisfying level, I imagine at least, you could have a sort of WoW Garrison via airships and that could rest neatly next to the current housing system as well a concept I tried to even write about here as I don't like to be seen as just complain without any attempt to offer deeper thoughts/attempt solutions.. At least in the sense of working with housing, like the instanced ward idea above, in that I don't want current users of the ward system to be robbed directly, it may happen indirectly if everyone chooses to say leave wards for an instanced only house cause they don't care about their postal address- but that imo means the system shouldn't have existed in the first place. Which might happen a little bit to some wards but I imagine most pre-existing ward users would only throw away their space if they decided not to login for a while or something (another thing instanced system could add as peace of mind and not feel like a tricksy corporation taunting you if you decide to unsub for a bit "if you leave I blow your house up!", now if you're away for long you'd only potentially lose your physical ward postal address and not your items / actual home as they'd be associated with the instanced exterior and instanced interior).

/lament

(somehow I still wrote more than intended, I need to become better friends with brevity xD...)

I forgot the first range prices but it makes me remember my first tought at housing release : FFXIV housing looks to be Aion inspired (both the Ward idea and the range price similar to the rumored auctions).

It is were we can see how outdated the design of housing is. It is all designed before big data and no-sql concepts.

The market really need a brand new and up-to-date MMO (housing, gameplay, design).

Knowing that Yoshida, looong ago, mentioned enjoying Dark Age of Camelot I'd also suggest the system might be inspired by that game as the systems are quite similar. Though also part of the reason why I think the system doesn't best fit / describe FFXIV, as these two are not alike at all. Either way though yeah I agree the system feels old school but, personally, not in the cool old school way- just old.

[PharisHanasaki]

I kinda wish they made the demolition timer much more severe, actually. Put it on a 4 week timer and you have to pay ~5% of the cost of your house every month. Which would make the cheapest house a mere 150k a month and the most expensive mansion 2.5m which seems fair enough and might discourage people from just sitting on empty property they aren't really using. And make it so players can actually put them up for sale for in-game gil to a max of like 90% the initial buy price or something. That way if someone wants to have the gil to buy another house when they get back, they'll have a chunk of it.

Or they can just make things instanced like sensible individuals but they're too far along into instanced housing to make a switch. But a limited resource to be spread among the players shouldn't just be something you will never, ever lose.

Of course this'll never happen, but I can dream.

Nah. Do you not have a life? There's a lot of people who have cleared everything on the game and even Yoshi know this is not an all year round game. So they can take 30 days breaks and still have a house.

I think they should relinquish land from people who own more than the allowed 2. Give them time to pick a state, and then release the rest. No one needs 5 houses.

[Awha]

Nah. Do you not have a life? There's a lot of people who have cleared everything on the game and even Yoshi know this is not an all year round game. So they can take 30 days breaks and still have a house.

I think they should relinquish land from people who own more than the allowed 2. Give them time to pick a state, and then release the rest. No one needs 5 houses.

I would be all for that if SE would allow alts to use the same house, until that happens I personally feel I need all my houses.

[PharisHanasaki]

I would be all for that if SE would allow alts to use the same house, until that happens I personally feel I need all my houses.

If no one can have more than 2 houses, neither should you.

[Eldevern]

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It really depends of the server and the wards. On Cerberus or Louisoix, there are a lot of wards that are dead empty, you don't cross anyone. Even those with big FCs look often like a dormitory city. Just leave your ward and wander around in other wards, in other cities, I guarantee you will find a lot of empty wards where you will not cross anyone.

[Vespar]

I like the neighborhoods too and I argue against instanced wards. We already have apartments which is instanced housing and those could certainly use an expansion but we don't need fake instanced wards nor do we need to tear down the neighborhoods either. I like my house where it is and I don't want other players demanding to take it away from me because they personally do not like their neighborhoods.

You misunderstood my post, assuming this was in repsonse to mine. I didnt say tear down the neighborhoods. I said ADD instanced homes, and leave the neighborhoods as is for those that want the sense of community. I for one would love a "cabin in the woods" style home. As a kid I lived on an acreage surrounded by trees, and had no neighbors. I loved it.

In regards to apartments, thats not really scratching the itch of housing. They'd need to make something more akin to a condo/townhouse. Something where you could still have a yard and enjoy the outdoor furnishings as well.

[hydralus]

Nah. Do you not have a life?

You're asking this in a thread where people are yet again whining about losing FAKE houses? Please. And my solution was fine for people owning multiple houses. If they want to pay 700k-12.5m+ a month to keep them then they're welcome to it. This game is in severe need of an actual gil-sink.

Although I'd be fine with them relinquishing land from people who own more than 2 places too. I'm easy. The only thing I'm against is people having limited housing for half a year without even paying a sub.

[Awha]

If no one can have more than 2 houses, neither should you.

Thing is people can have more then two houses. If SE were to force the change not like I could do much against it, but if they allowed alts to use share the same plot I would feel less inclined to buy a plot on my alts.

[Babakin]

I’m all for instanced housing. BDO and ESO does this all fine without having a monthly subscription. And Fallout 76 lets you plunk a house down anywhere on the map. Also, without a monthly subscription.

I’d legit give up my house in the Goblet for an instanced house. I don’t need the neighborhood environment since, frankly, there is never anyone out in the wards besides the NPCs. And let’s be honest, having neighbors is overrated. Heck, even better if apartments were upgradable to allow gardens instead of the flower pots. Or heck, make an instanced garden. I just really want a garden and it sucks it has to take up a housing spot to use.

[hynaku]

They should make housing like how it is in ESO. Where once you buy the home it's permanent and shared with all characters in that database.