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    Ritzia Flameshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    You shouldn't need shields for empty wave if you're at full health though, what. Maybe if you're going in at minimum ilevel, but not at a decent level, at least, not so long as it's being reprisaled by the tanks, like it should be.
    My apologies it wasn’t empty wave, it was the post adds raidwide damage that killed the whm, they had 103k total hp roughly.
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    Marius Heilstos
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    Hey Eclipse,

    In Nocturnal you have to start with Diu and make the same rotation. So you get neutral shild (asp. helios and for main tank asp. benefic) + CI (for the maintankt) than switch in Noct + noc field (asp. helios and for main tank asp. benefic) + CO + and the bubble short. The bubble medigation holds 20s. So have not to heal.



    The neutral shild and the noc. field has a 20% buff.

    Yep if you play diu ast + whm the midgation is not so great. Than you have to play in Nocturnal and that stance is not bad after the hugh buffs and change from patch 5.1. CO+ Noctunal field stacks. The bubble have min. 20s -10 dmg Buff (that can extended to ~40s with a 60s CD. But found no reason for it). The positiv thing in Noc is that CI is a hot tht cost nothing and is ocd heal.

    I know hat a lot of the AST player wants to play in Diu. But in Savage Raid you have to look that the Raid do not wipe from aoes or tankbuster. The Noc AST has great tool and with helios/ Benefic II great tools to heal, if the the OCDs are not there -> in the best case you dont need if the WHM makes a good job^^.
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    Qina Jumaloth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heilstos View Post
    Hey Eclipse,

    In Nocturnal you have to start with Diu and make the same rotation. So you get neutral shild (asp. helios and for main tank asp. benefic) + CI (for the maintankt) than switch in Noct + noc field (asp. helios and for main tank asp. benefic) + CO + and the bubble short. The bubble medigation holds 20s. So have not to heal.



    The neutral shild and the noc. field has a 20% buff.

    Yep if you play diu ast + whm the midgation is not so great. Than you have to play in Nocturnal and that stance is not bad after the hugh buffs and change from patch 5.1. CO+ Noctunal field stacks. The bubble have min. 20s -10 dmg Buff (that can extended to ~40s with a 60s CD. But found no reason for it). The positiv thing in Noc is that CI is a hot tht cost nothing and is ocd heal.

    I know hat a lot of the AST player wants to play in Diu. But in Savage Raid you have to look that the Raid do not wipe from aoes or tankbuster. The Noc AST has great tool and with helios/ Benefic II great tools to heal, if the the OCDs are not there -> in the best case you dont need if the WHM makes a good job^^.
    Diurnal AST + WHM can definitely mitigate enough for every fight in this tier. It worked for my static for 5-7 even when we had people below i475 (some people didn't buy crafted gear). E8S is a bit tighter, but apart from Absolute Zero at 0:16 there's nothing that needs shields after around i490.

    Diurnal is a 45% increase in oGCD healing potency over Nocturnal. People being too lazy to use their mitigation tools isn't a good reason to give that up.

    Making Diurnal the default sect if one isn't selected is a great idea. It's ideal for all content up to and including Extreme trials. For content above that it doesn't matter if there's a default Sect or not because people will almost never forget to use them as part of their prepull actions.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse12187 View Post
    My apologies it wasn’t empty wave, it was the post adds raidwide damage that killed the whm, they had 103k total hp roughly.
    You should still be able to live that. Maybe you'll need a tank CD there but I'm pretty certain it doesn't one-shot if the White Mage with that ilvl. It could be their healing cast went out at the same time, and because XIV registers damage first, they were snapshot with less HP than what their HP bar actually showed.
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