Suggesting Ideas for Blue Mage with feedback & Removing Limited Job Status

[ReiMakoto]

I get the idea for SE to make BLU a "full" but we have to be realistic here, will SE really put in the effort and resources to make two different versions of BLU? People do enjoy current BLU, and throwing them under the bus because people want a full job seems selfish. Sure we can say as fans and costumers we can say they can have the time and resources to do both, but we cannot say that for certain.

No one denies some people enjoy blu, most people want a best of both worlds approach which if you read my post last page could save resources if it was done instead of a new job, however given the stats we do have, the people who enjoy BLU is very low, like the number of people with the morbol mount in EU is measure in the 10s-20s per world. Significantly more people have cleared TEA than that. I would be willing to bet more people would get enjoyment out of BLU by maining it in an ulimited setting than currently get enjoyment out of limited blu. Vastly more people.

[SpiralMask]

No one denies some people enjoy blu, most people want a best of both worlds approach which if you read my post last page could save resources if it was done instead of a new job, however given the stats we do have, the people who enjoy BLU is very low, like the number of people with the morbol mount in EU is measure in the 10s-20s per world. Significantly more people have cleared TEA than that. I would be willing to bet more people would get enjoyment out of BLU by maining it in an ulimited setting than currently get enjoyment out of limited blu. Vastly more people.

at least personally, maining it was my biggest interest the second rumors started circulating, and I was super hyped when the CEO came out in costume for it. and then the announcements on what "limited jobs" actually were/entailed crushed that. at the very least I wanted to try NG+ with it once it was announced or just solo through it all, but even that's largely off the table due to the party mechanics and duty/instanced content requirements involved.

[basketofseals]

No one denies some people enjoy blu, most people want a best of both worlds approach which if you read my post last page could save resources if it was done instead of a new job, however given the stats we do have, the people who enjoy BLU is very low, like the number of people with the morbol mount in EU is measure in the 10s-20s per world. Significantly more people have cleared TEA than that. I would be willing to bet more people would get enjoyment out of BLU by maining it in an ulimited setting than currently get enjoyment out of limited blu. Vastly more people.

The amount of people playing BLU is proportionate to the amount of work they put into it. I'm sure there's more people that would enjoy as a full job compared to a limited job.

But the question was never whether we would get BLU as a full job or as a limited job. The question for SE was it worth it to make BLU as a limited job or spend those resources on another Gold Saucer minigame.

Not to say that it was easy or anything, but BLU was stupid easy/efficient to make in comparison to a new job. It required one casting animation, 3 very simply designed weapons, an auto attack/vpose/bstance animation, the learning system, and the masked carnival.

It didn't require any new attack animations or even balance.

[ReiMakoto]

The amount of people playing BLU is proportionate to the amount of work they put into it. I'm sure there's more people that would enjoy as a full job compared to a limited job.

But the question was never whether we would get BLU as a full job or as a limited job. The question for SE was it worth it to make BLU as a limited job or spend those resources on another Gold Saucer minigame.

Not to say that it was easy or anything, but BLU was stupid easy/efficient to make in comparison to a new job. It required one casting animation, 3 very simply designed weapons, an auto attack/vpose/bstance animation, the learning system, and the masked carnival.

It didn't require any new attack animations or even balance.

The primal skills did require new animations for BLU, and I'm pretty sure theres about 5 generic casting animations (similar number if a bit less to something like blm), but I understand the point you're making. It also did require balance, or they wouldnt have done a large balance overhaul to BLU before 5.1 where they changed how basically all their existing attacks and nerfed and buffed various skills, it absolutely undergoes a balance procedure which can also be seen by the fact that both level updates to blue it final rotation has had a dps output just a bit higher than standard dps jobs before accounting for self destructs and absurd buffs like mimicry.

But you're right about it taking less effort than existing jobs as the actual spell effects themselves are taken from enemies (except for the blu exclusive skills), however even with the lack of weapons (which they could have recycled as well but didnt) it probably still took considerably more resources than a gold saucer minigame, iirc it competes for dev resources with stuff like ultimate fights iirc.

[Awha]

No one denies some people enjoy blu, most people want a best of both worlds approach which if you read my post last page could save resources if it was done instead of a new job, however given the stats we do have, the people who enjoy BLU is very low, like the number of people with the morbol mount in EU is measure in the 10s-20s per world. Significantly more people have cleared TEA than that. I would be willing to bet more people would get enjoyment out of BLU by maining it in an ulimited setting than currently get enjoyment out of limited blu. Vastly more people.

Sure. but I see no problem with niche content. Maybe some do, but I think it is healthy to have some content that is not for everyone, that is what makes a theme park fun. I do not deny that it cannot be done, but even still our data and perspective clearly differs from SE when it comes to many things.