Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[KageTokage]

So, i had i an interesting run in Dohn Mheg yesterday. I am on PLD, other team members are MCH, SAM and WHM the Star (with the capital S) of our (shit)show.
At first i forgot to turn on the tank stance, and we wiped, i apologized, turned it on and then pulled 2 starter packs as usual.
Then i noticed, that despite me using my CDs i am getting really low and i am not sure why. Then i hear Cure sound. And pretty much nothing but it. I expect Holy. Not a single one through out the whole run. No Asylum, no Assize. Occasional Afflatus Solace. Also Benediction when i am at 60%. The run continued at a snail's pace due to Cure spam and almost no damage whatsoever. I think i saw Dia used twice and rarely a glare. Oh, and Afflatus misery a couple times as well.
For the second boss they kept putting Regen on everyone, but me. There were several wipes, because sometimes i'd pull an extra group hoping we'd manage it, but no. Also our MCH was using AoE rather sparingly, like when there were only 7+ enemies, which happened only on that big bee pack. And that was kinda rare because i had to pull really small just to stay alive with our Cure spam WHM.
Overall it took 37 minutes, and Trusts would have been faster.

Just your typical anti-DPS healer.

You're lucky they were even using Afflatus Misery since most of the ones I've encountered don't.

It's also rather common for them to neglect OGCD abilities for some reason.

[Flay_wind]

Just your typical anti-DPS healer.

You're lucky they were even using Afflatus Misery since most of the ones I've encountered don't.

It's also rather common for them to neglect OGCD abilities for some reason.

Well, Tetra or Benison would have been really helpful. Or anything besides Cure, really.

[Avidria]

That just sounds like a really terrible healer. I mean I'm usually pretty patient and don't tend to say anything even in the bad groups (unless someone who's doing something wrong tries to blame someone else...) but uh. A healer like that? I'd kick or bail after the first few wipes. In a lowbie dungeon sure whatever, but in a 73+ dungeon? That's just unacceptable. Idec about the lack of dps, it sounds like they weren't even doing their primary job - either because they had no idea how to or because they were being lazy, I guess. Probably the former because I feel like even someone being lazy would get tired of dying over and over. :/

[Liam_Harper]

It's why healing needs a rework. It took 37 minutes but you actually cleared. Probably all their other dungeons were similar, as rough as the runs may be, you can Cure I spam your way to 80 and content is actually designed to be possible even when playing that badly. Nothing helps teach you good habits but plenty teaches you bad ones. The Cure I trait in particular is a trap for the inexperienced that needs straight up deleting.

[TyrTry]

I'm currently leveling some DPS classes, so we did a leveling roulette as DRG and WHM. We got into Sohm Al.

The tank pulled the first two enemies. The NIN quickly used Doton, and, as the tank proceeded to pull more, he used Katon. And then, this:

And he was gone. So weird. I mean, he DID use his AoE ninjutsu, I saw them. So why would anyone who has ONLY a DPS class leveled refuse to do more than single pulls? He must have left so many dungeons by now.

He is for a shock when he hits Expert then.

[TyrTry]

Maybe a long time ago you did sidequest but the current structure for the MSQ gives enough xp that doing that while doing roulettes is more then enough to reach level 50 in fact most of the time you out level MSQ quest themselves most newer players wont have a need to do side quests and the ARR side quest are not on the level of HW onwards in term of story.


I just checked the city vendor and they still offer only up to 29 which gives you a whole 1 extra vitality and the difference from going from level 1 to level 39 in terms of vitality is about 29 hp per ring so about 145 hp for all slots and cost approximately 40k on the auction house, about 40k to not even take 1 extra auto attack from a mob in AV I checked and they auto attack from 200-300. I get you want don't want new players to be lazy but they should 100% be focusing on the left side pre 50 and only equipping right side when they drop.

They should 100% be focusing on ALL sides. I don't understand why this is so complicated. Don't use the excuse that "MSQ gives so much experience that sidequest are not needed for newer players" when sidequest in ARR still give: Weapons, Armor, Accessories, and Gil.

If a player can't look at their accessories and realize that their is a BIG difference between the number 1 and the number 47, then there isn't too much to say for them. You have a choice and the game gives you options. If the player chooses to ignore those options, then that's not the game's fault, it's theirs.

[Limonia]

Then i hear Cure sound. And pretty much nothing but it. I expect Holy. Not a single one through out the whole run. No Asylum, no Assize. Occasional Afflatus Solace. Also Benediction when i am at 60%. The run continued at a snail's pace due to Cure spam and almost no damage whatsoever. I think i saw Dia used twice and rarely a glare. Oh, and Afflatus misery a couple times as well.

At least he used Afflatus Solace and Misery and like 2 Dias and Glares. I had a Dohn Mheg run where the ONLY time the WHM used Glare was when he was in one of the cages the second boss casts on everyone. Or WHMs that never ever use an Afflatus heal. The ONLY buttons they ever use are the hardcast GCD heals, maybe Swiftcast for Raise, if at all.

That's another reason why healing needs a rework. I don't get why SE insists on being able to clear content when playing like that. I mean, tanking is really easy, but after the first few dungeons you at least need to be able to somehow pull enemies and hold aggro to not cause wipes. As a healer you can do the same as in the first dungeon (i.e. press Cure I and maybe Medica) and be fine. The worst thing about that is that most players are totally fine with that too, "as long as they clear the dungeon". Same goes for DPS actually, who sometimes press like 3 different buttons at max.

[Rita1989]

They should 100% be focusing on ALL sides. I don't understand why this is so complicated. Don't use the excuse that "MSQ gives so much experience that sidequest are not needed for newer players" when sidequest in ARR still give: Weapons, Armor, Accessories, and Gil.

If a player can't look at their accessories and realize that their is a BIG difference between the number 1 and the number 47, then there isn't too much to say for them. You have a choice and the game gives you options. If the player chooses to ignore those options, then that's not the game's fault, it's theirs.

You seem to lack reading comprehension the difference between 1 and 47 accessories is small get it s-m-a-l-l not large tank a dungeon in 1 and 47 accessorizes for yourself and you can see that is literally makes no difference at all.

[TyrTry]

You seem to lack reading comprehension the difference between 1 and 47 accessories is small get it s-m-a-l-l not large tank a dungeon in 1 and 47 accessorizes for yourself and you can see that is literally makes no difference at all.

Oh don't worry about my comprehension. I clearly understood what you were saying. You are clearly hellbent of discussing how irrelevant accessories are pre-50 even though they do help out ( even with their "small" upgrades). I'm sure you'll label me toxic as well even though you're quick to call the kettle black. There is a difference. It helps the player and party. Ignore it all you want. I'm through. Have a good day.

[Rita1989]

Oh don't worry about my comprehension. I clearly understood what you were saying. You are clearly hellbent of discussing how irrelevant accessories are pre-50 even though they do help out ( even with their "small" upgrades). I'm sure you'll label me toxic as well even though you're quick to call the kettle black. There is a difference. It helps the player and party. Ignore it all you want. I'm through. Have a good day.

I mean your continuing to spread misinformation while not being informed and basing it on nothing.

I have spent the time to test it and telling you there is no reason to have accessories pre 50 it does nothing that could justify spending any amount of gil on it, if you have millions and it makes you feel better buy it but don't force it on newer players.