Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
Good point, so I started thinking over how that might work without being just "they didn't think this through" - 'they' being either the writers or the characters, though at least the characters have the excuse that they were kind of desperate and jumping in without a real plan was the only option they had.
We dont know what exactly was planned by Cid and Nero and what the others made themselfs, thats a pitty too... IF we get another lore book it'll be surely interresting.

So perhaps - and I'd have to review exactly what G'raha said about it in the game to be sure, but - maybe they weren't aiming for him to arrive a particular point in time relative to the deadline, but rather at the earliest possible time they could arrive.
It might fit, even if its close. But from when he got thancred and us... it seems as it really was right after Tsuko was done and Omega, ofc the later is its own small time bubble as we could finish the story long before Tsuko, right after Zenos.

As someone already said we have that Sequence of G'raha looking through the heavensward book, at the ruins of Ishgard, wondering if he should take us after the dragonwar, but then saying it was too early and after ala mhigo would be better. Atm we have no point where anyone from the future mentioned Mifilia, but i guess we can assume they knew...


I assume that the timeline will only split at the point where G'raha's original future can no longer come to pass, and anything that happens prior to this point, even if it involved time travel, is simply incorporated into a single flow of time. Otherwise we broke the timeline already, possibly twice, and Alexander seems to think everything is fine.
On alex it was different due him having his cat do the work behind the scenes... Its true there might be a breaking point from which on his future cant happen anymore, MAYBE his plan cant even work as planned and time will try to fix itself, maybe the future just vanishes once its no longer possible to happen - maybe it forces itself to become the future we create...

Idk if you player Prince of persia - the sands of time trillogy.
There was a Monster, trying to kill the player bc he changed the future, which is payed with your life. There might be some backlash comming to us or G'raha.

Or if we look closer, the FF13-2.
Time corrects itself, if we changed the relative future, its past corrected itself, including its ppl... there was no split then, it was changed like it always was like that and only ppl with special powers would remember the old timeline.

It might be we havent reached the breaking point yet, or, G'raha was sent adrift and exists without time, but the fact that neither he nor the tower made *poof* yet feels fishy and leaves a bad feeling without any further information.

(I need to check but I believe Alphascape was released in 4.4, the same patch in which G'raha started trying to summon us.)
It was, te trailer openened wiht his distant calls underlayed by "from the heavens" Omegas final theme^^


Of course, "soon after Minfilia departed" in Source time translates to a few years since she arrived in the First.
Its that weird flow of time, it seems to be rather sync when the wod came over and mifinlia went back and then got really fast until it finally slowed down again... He was really lucky he didnt have like 5 min till the flood or had to wait 2-3000 years lol


We don't know how summoning mechanisms work. Maybe there's some weird thing with bodies and souls, and it can't work with a soulless body. I think it's safe to assume that there's something preventing it, or they would have done it by now.
Maybe, but not even adressing it is frustrating... And there should be still aether in their body - its made of it, heck, as they are lifeless we might be able to just grab em and take em over xD

...i guess thats too easy, but still. Gettin their bodies over might be the easier task for now and would prevent em to die xD

It just feels we look for the most complicated way possible. And ye we neither reach out for Cid or Nero, or dunno, blackmages to summon em like voidsent or anything...

I don't think Thancred can use normal teleportation devices at all though, so maybe he wouldn't be able to use that one either.
Idk he has aether, he just cant use it. Normally you do the teleport, but that mirror(?) seems to be different, so it might be enough to "ship" him lol

...there still is the chance that gettin him over isnt possible. I feel its weird he could not use aether at the first neither as it was a "new" body - its weird that his and Y'shtolas damage seems to be at their very soul.


Pulled out of nowhere, fight this monster they've been thrown up against, then snap back to their own world without an explanation?
Just to imagine... "well now youre friends are back, lets see how we get those guys to their different shards!" xD

It was cool but not really a smart thing to do.. the weird flow of time, the stuff they had to deal with.... lol



Definitely not happening. We specifically broke the time machine's core in the Twinning.
But i do wonder why it already fell apart when we got there...