FFXIV Developper please consider replace bloodspiller animation with Cloud's Braver

[TouchandFeel]

Cloud is a tortuted soul using an overly huge 2h sword, so I can't think of any other FF character that suit the dark knight theme bether then him.

Personally I feel that Cecil should be the character that they drew from the most for Dark Knight but I can see that being difficult since outside of the Dissidia series, there isn't much in the way of iconic Cecil Dark Knight abilities to reference asides from Darkness which was brought in for Flood of Darkness/Shadow.

I really think the references that DRK makes to Cloud is more based on the whole oversized 2-handed sword thing.

[OnyxBlackheart]

Yes, Blade Beam is over the shoulder and then down while Dark Passenger actually spins down, back and then up and over the head at a slight diagonal, so that is somewhat different...

DP isn't brought down to generate a burst of energy. That's like saying Flood is brought up to generate the energy for the attack. As stated it's a literal swordsman attack for two handed swords. No coincidence there. It's simply not inspired by it, it's a whole different animation from top to bottom.

As for Carve and Spit, they are all actually diagonal slashes not vertical, so the details that you are using as arguing points are a little off...

Did you not watch your own vid? Overhead into two horizontal slashes, in dissidia they're a bit more diagonal but still very close to horizontal. I think it's your points that are a bit off. I simply see 0 connection and don't understand how one could see CnS and think "inspired by Cross Slash"

IAs for being rude and insulting, saying that someone would have to be "blind af" to see what I am seeing is an insult. One would have to be "blind af" not to see that.

If you take that as an insult then I repeat my suggestion of stay off the nets.

The term "thirsty" in of itself is not an insult but within the context that you used it, yes it is...

This is quite the reach... You reach more than Tsu Surf

When one says it about themselves such as you saying "I am thirst af for Squall" it's fine, because you are simply being casually self-deprecating , no different that than saying something like "I'm such an idiot that I ...

Or maybe just not everyone is a snowflake to cry about being thirsty over a VIDEOGAME CHARACTER

So no I don't need to "probs stay off the internet", I just understand context and how it can vastly alter what is being said and how it will come across, something you should perhaps put a bit more thought into.

You literally threw a hissy fit thinking you were being insulted. You claim you understand context but got it completely wrong.

I also didn't follow with an argument as a "cop-out" but because you said you were done, which you seem to have now edited out, and was thus dropping continuing the debate but felt I should point out that your approach was rude.

If that were even remotely true you'd not have said anything. Why lie on the internet? It's not that serious.

Anyways, I don't see this going anywhere productive and so I will just leave it at agreeing to disagree.

Ciao

[Videra]

Just give me scourge, Old Delirium and Power Slash back.

[OnyxBlackheart]

Just give me scourge, Old Delirium and Power Slash back.

Yesss give back scourge and old delirium v.v Power slash however was useless but man did it have a sexy animation.

[Elkanah]

I just wanna say... I want Tank LB (for DRK) to be replaced with Omnislash. XD

[Venur]

Personally I feel that Cecil should be the character that they drew from the most for Dark Knight but I can see that being difficult since outside of the Dissidia series, there isn't much in the way of iconic Cecil Dark Knight abilities to reference asides from Darkness which was brought in for Flood of Darkness/Shadow.

I really think the references that DRK makes to Cloud is more based on the whole oversized 2-handed sword thing.

Well since Cecil end beeing a paladin I find him less suited personnaly.

[Lyth]

While FF7 wasn't my favourite entry in the series, I do like the nostalgia references to Cloud on DRK and wouldn't mind seeing them expanded on. Similarly, I felt that adding Edgar's (FF6) Auto-crossbow, Drill, Bioblaster, and Air Anchor references on MCH helped it bring out more job flavour. Most of the big selling points of this game come out of its homages to other entries in the series.

[cactuarzzzz]

I think you missed the point of what I said.
You stated the animation has a "weird flex" and I simply pointed out that it is neither a "flex" or "weird" because that is what it looks like when you swing an object like that in the real world.
As for "everything about DRK being unnatural" and me "trying to make an exception when it suits me", I have no idea what you are getting at. In order to have an exception I need to have made other points that I then deviated from for another point. So where is this so called "exception"?

Also, Bloodspiller without the "weird flex" is not the same as the FF7 Remake Braver. Bloodspiller has the DRK stand, spin the sword in a full rotation and strike the enemy. The FF7 Remake has Cloud jump up, do a front-flip and then slash with his sword. Sure, they both have the sword spin around and then hit the target but they are not the same.
Kabooa hit the nail on the head with saying that the FF7 Remake version of Braver is basically the the same animation as Plunge.

Did you notice that you were trying to push "natural" & "make sense" "like swing hammer" to a magic greatsword user that have a tons of moves and abilities that is unnatural and don't make sense? Save that natural& hammer swing etc. for WAR if you must, please.

As for bloodspiller&braver my point still stand : "It only have a little difference+dark effect"

[cactuarzzzz]

My argument/guess about the flex doesn't change the fact that changing the animation would take more than 5 minutes and take away resources that really should be used elsewhere right now.

I can also use your own logic to argue that they should skip/stop make any changes that you expected/wish to see so they can release the patch faster because just like your "Resource shouldn't be wasted on anything that I don't care".

[Lukeal]

Eh, i'd rather they give us Torcleaver as a weaponskill/animation. That skill was my jam in XI