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  1. #1
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    Sleepy Bunneh
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    Leviathan
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    Housing change needs to happen.

    I apologize if this is in the wrong section.

    Players need to be able to kick/ban people from their houses. Square claims that they take harassment seriously so why do they not even permit us to keep our own player homes free from trolls and people who wish to harass or bully other members of the game community. It is frankly ridiculous and needs to be implemented like yesterday.
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Days without new threads about housing: -100.

    It's not the wrong section, but there are so many threads about housing already that I won't be surprised if your idea already was suggested by somebody else in one of them. Remember that developers themselves said that it's better to keep one big thread with suggestions for one theme instead of 10000000 small ones that will just vanish in all this mess without being ever noticed because thread with 1-2 comments somewhere on 100th page won't get their attention.

    On the topic, I'm not sure how this can be implemented to prevent bullying entirely. It should be possible on a technical level to make the house impossible to enter for people in black list, but there is still a garden where they can just stalk you, and with this they probably couldn't do anything (and no, it's not a reason to add instanced housing, let's not even touch it here). There is also a chance, that is far from zero as some players' expirience shows, that harraser just will create alts, and unless your house is in Shirogane you're doomed to deal with eternal black listing then (depending on their... "dedication"). That said though, preventing people from BL from entering the house is still better than nothing at all and should work to a some extent.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyBunny View Post
    Players need to be able to kick/ban people from their houses.
    You can lock your house from people who aren't your tenants.
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    That doesn't do anything about people already inside, yea sure it'll kick em out whenever they log back in but the amount of time between patches is lengthy and that's the only forced log out.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    That doesn't do anything about people already inside, yea sure it'll kick em out whenever they log back in but the amount of time between patches is lengthy and that's the only forced log out.
    You're right actually. I didn't even think someone would stay in another person's home for an entire patch. That's pretty dedicated harassment. 0_0

    Maybe GMs would be able to help.
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    Ea Sin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    That doesn't do anything about people already inside, yea sure it'll kick em out whenever they log back in but the amount of time between patches is lengthy and that's the only forced log out.
    I mean, at any point in that time you could simply report the player for harassment. If you get harassed so much that locking your house isn't enough then I wonder what you did to attract that much negative attention in the first place.
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    I mean, at any point in that time you could simply report the player for harassment.
    Pretty much this - If you dont have them as a tenant and change the lockout and ask them to leave and they persist, yeah, that would probably fall under harassment. Realistically the GM is gonna just pull the person to GM jail and thatll be that. As someone else mentioned though, thats a lot of dedication to leave your game running, not run any content, not turn off your computer, not lose internet by accident...that is pretty extreme.
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    You can lock your house from people who aren't your tenants.
    You can only have a limited number of tenants though.
    So, if you want to host a larger group of people over, you're screwed. :B
    Maybe they could make it so people can't enter another player's personal house it that other player blacklisted them? (No clue what to do for FC houses though, plus people can just make a new character and delete them when they're blacklisted).
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    If you get harassed so much that locking your house isn't enough then I wonder what you did to attract that much negative attention in the first place.
    In most harrasment cases you don't need to do anything special to get negative attention. There are plenty of people who are just... I'm not sure how to phrase it correctly, but let's just say that most abusers and harassers either don't befriend logic at all or it's very twisted. They will find any small reason to bully you and the most dedicated can go as far as starting stalking you in real life if it's possible for them to do.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    SE dosn't have a way to filter who can enter your house outside of the tenant list when your guest access is disabled.

    If you really want to keep others out, turn off guest access. If you're hosting a gathering for a large number of friends, keep access turned off until they are outside your house then turn it on just long enough for them to get in.

    Simply being in your house wouldn't be considered harassment. If they are doing things while they're in your house to specfically disrupt your game play, it *might* be considered harassment. The most you can do is open a ticket if someone is disrupting your game play and let the GMs decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    In most harrasment cases you don't need to do anything special to get negative attention. There are plenty of people who are just... I'm not sure how to phrase it correctly, but let's just say that most abusers and harassers either don't befriend logic at all or it's very twisted. They will find any small reason to bully you and the most dedicated can go as far as starting stalking you in real life if it's possible for them to do.
    But they're usually just looking for the attention. Ignore them and they get bored, looking for a new "victim" to upset.
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