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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    The aesthetic it sounds like they're looking for is "comically oversized weapon" in the vein of comically oversized greatswords or axes.


    Spears and Katanas are just normal weapons, and the aesthetics tied to them are very different.
    Uh, have you seen some of the spears and katanas in this game? Comically oversized is alive and well here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Uh, have you seen some of the spears and katanas in this game? Comically oversized is alive and well here.
    They are more precision weapons though requiring precise slicing/thrusting, while Warrior Axe and DRK Greatsword are more in the flavor of swinging and smashing stuff in their path like a berserker.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    They are more precision weapons though requiring precise slicing/thrusting, while Warrior Axe and DRK Greatsword are more in the flavor of swinging and smashing stuff in their path like a berserker.
    Okay, whatever it justifies it for you in your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Okay, whatever it justifies it for you in your head.
    Yeah that's all that matters, how people perceive it. Can't really get very technical about stuff in a fantasy setting. Comparing with other MMOs there's no Berserker type job in this game for melee dps, MNK might be the closest thing but obviously doesn't satisfy the archetype since it's with fists and all about mysticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Okay, whatever it justifies it for you in your head.
    I thought that I was being very clear and other people seem'd to get what I meant.
    Especially when I mentioned WAR and DRK too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I thought that I was being very clear and other people seem'd to get what I meant.
    Especially when I mentioned WAR and DRK too.
    However you want to justify hand-waving that there are already two pure dps jobs that wield 2-handed weapons is fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    However you want to justify hand-waving that there are already two pure dps jobs that wield 2-handed weapons is fine with me.
    You're just being obtuse at this point. Samurai and Dragoon don't satisfy the desire for there to be a DPS job that uses a massive two-handed weapon as if they were Guts with the Dragonslayer just because they hold their weapon in two hands. They both have their own aesthetics and playstyles neither of which is "crush the opposition with a weapon as big as you are", no matter how big their weapon glams end up being on rare occasions. Dragoon's jumps and dragon lasers are not that. Samurai's fast, nimble attacks and iajutsu quickdraws are not that.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    You're just being obtuse at this point. Samurai and Dragoon don't satisfy the desire for there to be a DPS job that uses a massive two-handed weapon as if they were Guts with the Dragonslayer just because they hold their weapon in two hands. They both have their own aesthetics and playstyles neither of which is "crush the opposition with a weapon as big as you are", no matter how big their weapon glams end up being on rare occasions. Dragoon's jumps and dragon lasers are not that. Samurai's fast, nimble attacks and iajutsu quickdraws are not that.
    Okay, then. You're seriously trying to say that Dragoon doesn't "crush the opposition with a weapon as big as you are." Their weapons are twice as big as they are with slow, massive hits some of which literally crash down on enemies from on high with it. I mean, come on. You'd be more honest if you just said you don't like SAM and DRG and want a different 2-handed DPS instead of trying to come up with some head cannon to explain away their weapons.
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