Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Haprimac]

Figured I'd show this here. They're my viera's children Ljfr ♂, Njfna ♀ & Raðgr ♂. Raðgr's gender was discovered just two years ago, so he's still looking very effeminate. c:

[Amnmaat]

Figured I'd show this here. They're my viera's children Ljfr ♂, Njfna ♀ & Raðgr ♂. Raðgr's gender was discovered just two years ago, so he's still looking very effeminate. c:

Great kids; it's also great that you follow the naming conventions. I wonder what naming conventions Male Viera would use, will it be similar to female Viera or deviate in some ways? I think it would be great if the male ones used vowels to because it's important to say their name loudly and clearly since they live isolated. Anyway I'm really looking forward to a complete male + female Viera race, I really don't like this idea that an mmo race should exist without both genders, it's such an outdated concept based on outdated gender roles and outdated player expectations. Just because the playerbase wants to play cute-sexy female Viera doesn't mean they don't also want to play cute-sexy male Viera. What gets me the most is that the Viera/Hrothgar decision was a corporate level decision and not so much an artistic one, that's what really grinds my gears.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Great kids; it's also great that you follow the naming conventions. I wonder what naming conventions Male Viera would use, will it be similar to female Viera or deviate in some ways? I think it would be great if the male ones used vowels to because it's important to say their name loudly and clearly since they live isolated. Anyway I'm really looking forward to a complete male + female Viera race, I really don't like this idea that an mmo race should exist without both genders, it's such an outdated concept based on outdated gender roles and outdated player expectations. Just because the playerbase wants to play cute-sexy female Viera doesn't mean they don't also want to play cute-sexy male Viera. What gets me the most is that the Viera/Hrothgar decision was a corporate level decision and not so much an artistic one, that's what really grinds my gears.

If it was an artistic one, there wouldn't have been any viera.

[Amnmaat]

If it was an artistic one, there wouldn't have been any viera.

Not true, that was PR/marketing babble. The backlash if they said "We were creating Viera but then we saw the down-slide of World of Warcraft, the closing of Guild Wars 2, and the decline of Elders scrolls and decided to add a race that would appeal to them. Let's not act like we don't know how corporations work. They're not always goody two shoes who always tell the truth.

This was 100% a corporate level decision no matter what they say. Au ra was their chance to add this "variety" they talk about. Let's be real here for at least 1 second.

[MikkoAkure]

Not true, that was PR/marketing babble. The backlash if they said "We were creating Viera but then we saw the down-slide of World of Warcraft, the closing of Guild Wars 2, and the decline of Elders scrolls and decided to add a race that would appeal to them. Let's not act like we don't know how corporations work. They're not always goody two shoes who always tell the truth.

This was 100% a corporate level decision no matter what they say. Au ra was their chance to add this "variety" they talk about. Let's be real here for at least 1 second.

This thread wouldn’t be complete without it’s spicy hot takes. There’s no reason not to believe the official story of “we wanted to add hrothgar but viera were popular so we made a decision to split the difference”. This thread is a lot of things but conspiracy theories doesn’t help the image of “the cause”.

[Amnmaat]

This thread wouldn’t be complete without it’s spicy hot takes. There’s no reason not to believe the official story of “we wanted to add hrothgar but viera were popular so we made a decision to split the difference”. This thread is a lot of things but conspiracy theories doesn’t help the image of “the cause”.

There's no image of the cause, there's just we want them to complete the race.
There's no reason to believe their official PR story either, specially considering the points I brought up. There was never any precedence to their sudden love for beastial races, not here in NA/EU. If they site Japan for their love of Lupin I call BS on that, Au ra was a race made as a love gift to the japanese playerbase.

Their hrothgar story is easy to break down and refute in every direction.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

There's no image of the cause, there's just we want them to complete the race.
There's no reason to believe their official PR story either, specially considering the points I brought up. There was never any precedence to their sudden love for beastial races, not here in NA/EU. If they site Japan for their love of Lupin I call BS on that, Au ra was a race made as a love gift to the japanese playerbase.

Their hrothgar story is easy to break down and refute in every direction.

Do you have solid proof of this, or is this one of those "common sense" theories that people love to make up?
Btw, Viera are already complete, Male Viera would technically be an Addon, because a visual of a Male Viera has never in canon been seen with our own eyes or even Offically been seen with a Finalized Illistration by the company nor creator.

[Amnmaat]

Do you have solid proof of this, or is this one of those "common sense" theories that people love to make up?
Btw, Viera are already complete, Male Viera would technically be an Addon, because a visual of a Male Viera has never in canon been seen with our own eyes or even Offically been seen with a Finalized Illistration by the company nor creator.

Not true

As for your first statement, I stated twice why their sudden inclusion of hrothgar doesn't add up and is just PR babble.

[Theodric]

I do think FFXIV suffers terribly from the lack of a major rival. Blizzard sat on their hands for years despite many requests for broader character customisation in World of Warcraft yet to their credit they updated their character models across the board once already and are set to do so again during their upcoming expansion.

I'd also note that very few companies are going to actually put forward anything other than carefully manufactured PR statements in the face of controversy - and the missing gender situation is very much a controversy.

[Schwarzwind]

YoshiP clearly stated in an interview that the reasons they did not include male Viera and female Hrothgar were due to financial reasons, lacking man power and because of the time the missing genders would take to create. Source: https://www.usgamer.net/articles/fin...r-trust-system

As much as I would like to see the missing genders implemented I fear as long as those problems hold on, we won't hear much about them. Also they most likely will be very vague about the topic in the future altogether because of the backlash that happened after the Fanfest reveal.