So, Mog station here we are

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Get over it. Microtransactions are not going anywhere. This incessant whining every time something is added to Mog Station is stupid af.

"Don't tell me what to do, you are not paying my sub" ;p

[Centershock]

So I sort of get why some people might be all against this Mog Station cash shop thing. I come from an age where there were virtually no F2P MMOs. They were all sub-based and everything you wanted was obtainable in game somehow. (Some took a lot of effort, so in no way did I feel like I could get said [item] for free.)

Sure these items in the Mog Station are optional. You are, in no point, held at gunpoint and being told that you have to purchase them for USD 18 or else. I do wish, however, that they did not come with such an expensive price tag. Many of these full sets are 18 bucks, which is more than the price of a monthly sub. I guess I wouldn't even have a slight gripe with it if these glamour sets were account-wide instead of per character.

Anyway, I kinda get why there's a huge gripe with it. I even get why they'd think SE is quote/unquote double dipping. But that seems a bit out of reach. If they did help us get more servers/DCs for NA and EU, then I can rest easier knowing my money is going somewhere. (Gods only know how much I've spent on skips and sets on the Mog Station.)

[Duskane]

"Don't tell me what to do, you are not paying my sub" ;p

hes not wrong
they don't need a reminder people dont like paying for things and they are not gonna stop
people are welcome to complain about mogstation every time something comes out but its not gonna do anything

[Ramesses]

Get over it. Microtransactions are not going anywhere. This incessant whining every time something is added to Mog Station is stupid af.

Exactly... exactly this. At this point, their sense of entitlement and whinging is beyond irritating.

[Jojoya]

If you don't like a company's business practices, make certain you're heaping a good portion of blame on yourself if you're continuing to do business with that company thereby supporting their business practices.

Square Enix isn't a charity. They're a for-profit business. There are shareholders to be paid for investing in the company, expenses and salaries to be paid, loans to be repaid, etc.

They're out to serve their customers. Do you know why cash shops exist? It's because players tell game companies "I wish your game had this, I'd pay extra to get it" and so the companies try to give those players what they're asking for. They create extras that cost an extra fee because players told them they want it.

There are thousands of items in this game that you're able to obtain through game play. Satisfy yourselves with those items if you don't want to pay to get the items specifically created for the players who said they were willing to pay more and that in turn allow game companies to maintain relatively stable game and subscription prices instead of increasing those things every year when they have to give their employees raises, pay increased insurance costs and lease fees, invest in new technologies to improve their games, etc.

You're welcome to start up your own game companies if you think it can be done better.

If a cash shop bugs you this much, find a different game company that does things the way you like it and play their games instead.

This may be my dementia kicking in but I seem to recall, in the olden days, there being cool looking gear and mounts that you could indeed get for free as part of your sub and expac purchase. Whats really funny is now these things cost more than the damn sub. But alas we are in the age of microtransactions and it's not changing anytime soon.

Did you know that there are still lots of cool looking and mounts that you can get for free as part of your sub by playing the game?

You should look into those.

By the way, I also remember the old days when all the cool stuff was part of a subscription but there was also very little of it and you had no other options. These days you get a lot more for you subscription even if you choose to ignore what's provided because you're too upset over a couple of items sold for an additional fee.

[DarkMasamune]

Oh no, deary me, a game with microtransactions in 2020.

I mean, I sortof understand why some people might think it's a bit much since we're paying for the subs and whatnot, but I really don't mind the Mogstation. If I want something, I'll buy it, if not, then I won't.

[Burmecia]

Hmm. In fact I am very happy with how Mogstation is. Anyone who has played p2w type of games knows that is basically their subscription fee: the real money you gotta put to their cash shop. But! There you are competing against people who dump thousands of dollars into the damn game per month. You are supposed to feel the difference in 10 dollars put into p2w game and 1000.
In FFXIV, in comparison, you only feel the sting of jealousy or awe, when someone has nicer glam. I am fine with that, as someone who used to be pretty invested in p2w game. As long as those glams are not killing me in overworld with 1 hit and making me lose the whole exp tally of the day, I am fine. Of course, FFXIV does not work like that and thank the effin god for that, but that is exactly how many other games work.

Mogstation sells you aesthetics. You can absolutely enjoy this game without the bells and whistles from mogstation. Most of the mogstation stuff is too gaudy for my tastes, but I am still happy that they exist because they are not too gaudy for everyone. And in between gaudy things there is stuff I think is super cool. And when I have some extra, I might be buying some of that in future. This month my extra went to spoil my bff, because I went and bought this pixie dress for her, inspired by this thread. I think the dress is something she would enjoy wearing in game

Good chunk of mogstation items, the event stuff, was free once. You know you should farm the event stuff you want when the event is going on - but SE is not keeping you from buying the stuff later, if you started playing later or if you lost the stuff on the way. And like, that is preferable to not ever having access to those items ever again. I do not even know where I am going with this post.

Just, keep everything in perspective, everyone. I am sorry if you won't be able to get this dress right away, and that makes you feel bad. But nothing in Mogtation is outrageously expensive. I heard saving works for those kind of purchases very well.

[Krotoan]

It may get old and it may not change anything, yet it is still necessary to remind SE that people don't like it when they are putting items in a shop instead of putting them into the game.

The main point here is that without the cash shop this item wouldn't exist anyway. This isn't "instead".

[Eldevern]

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Rather agree. When you see the price of BDO glamours that are both gender+job+character locked and cost around 30€ each...

There are anyway things I don't consider as fair or normal :
event items in mogstation : in many F2P and P2W event items are seasonal and come back every year.
housing items in mogstation : you can lose housing and items can be stolen if placed in FC house (and housing items are concerned by the event matter).

[Halivel]

I really don't get how you can not have issues with a game that forces you to buy it, the expansions and pay a sub to access it and still sell you exclusive glamour in the Cash Shop.

I mean, I really, really don't get it, the outfit is basically the price of a month sub oO

I don't remember any annoying pop-up advertisement in the game that screams "BUY ME!" that shows up once I log in and can't be removed unless the item it bought. Sooooo, no, the game doesn't force me to buy it. It is sometimes annoying that some items are Mog Station only (...though, to be honest, it's more because I'm a Russian with 400$ payment so it's just damn expensive for me than because it's a mog station item), but the game in no way forces me to buy items in Mog Station. It's a glamour, totally optional one, that doesn't give any advantages and not having it doesn't ruin my gameplay.

Also, if anything, them stopping adding items in Mog will worry me more than having them doing it, because it will signalize the very possible rise of the subscription fee to compensate the loss of income and keep up with expenses (that only rise with time going), which I totally don't want to happen. My sub is still 13 euro as it was in 2013. If I have Mog Station and its customers (including myself occasionally) to thank for that - so be it, as long it's not a P2W shop, which is not the case.