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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    How hard do you think it is for the dev's to move the invisible barriers? Moving Barriers is simple repositioning them all just takes time and cannot be done in one go. But it can be done by one department unlike making a 4 man dungeon which requires more then one department being involved. There is a big difference between them having time to make totally new content and having the time to go back an make changes to existing content. There is also the fact the various departments that make up the dev team dont all have free same at the exact same moment. Moving the barriers is also one change that even Yoshi would most likely not notice.
    Do you think making flying available in the ARR zones just entails moving invisible barriers? Do you really think it is that easy? HW, SB, and ShB had their zones designed with the intention that mounts can fly there. That is not the case with ARR. They now have to go back to zones that already exist, and modify them. You might also want to take note that invisible barriers are not removed. They will still be in place, just differently to accommodate the changes.

    The rest of your statement is why I brought up how allocation works in a previous post (you can't take five eggs from a basket that has only four). This metaphor is to express that no matter how many, or how few resources are allocated, that is the exact number that is not working on relevant content. No matter how much or how little time was spent on its development is the exact amount of time not spent on relevant content.

    I am not sure I can make it any more clear than that. Questionable decisions like this one are very concerning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Do you think making flying available in the ARR zones just entails moving invisible barriers? Do you really think it is that easy? HW, SB, and ShB had their zones designed with the intention that mounts can fly there. That is not the case with ARR. They now have to go back to zones that already exist, and modify them. You might also want to take note that invisible barriers are not removed. They will still be in place, just differently to accommodate the changes.

    The rest of your statement is why I brought up how allocation works in a previous post (you can't take five eggs from a basket that has only four). This metaphor is to express that no matter how many, or how few resources are allocated, that is the exact number that is not working on relevant content. No matter how much or how little time was spent on its development is the exact amount of time not spent on relevant content.

    I am not sure I can make it any more clear than that. Questionable decisions like this one are very concerning.
    As it even occcured to you that when they have free time its cause they have nothing relevant to work on? Can't work on relevant content if its in the hands of the team that comes before yours now can you? I know its hard to believe but yes even game developers have periods of time where there is no work cause they are waiting on their fellow dev's to finish their end.
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    People seem to think that things like this are worked on and completed overnight. These bouts of free time that a dev has could easily amount to something over a longer period of time. Small bits of free time, yet several years to slowly build it behind the scenes. It's doubtful that this flying in ARR zones was thought of just this expansion. If you had a small group of devs working together on this in their free time over the course of a few years, this could be accomplished. I doubt any resources were taken from anything just to complete this. Y'all love getting upset over QoL changes that don't directly affect you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    People seem to think that things like this are worked on and completed overnight. These bouts of free time that a dev has could easily amount to something over a longer period of time. Small bits of free time, yet several years to slowly build it behind the scenes. It's doubtful that this flying in ARR zones was thought of just this expansion. If you had a small group of devs working together on this in their free time over the course of a few years, this could be accomplished. I doubt any resources were taken from anything just to complete this. Y'all love getting upset over QoL changes that don't directly affect you.
    Thats what I have been trying to point out. Ya its time a consuming task to do but one that uses very little resources and can be done over a long period. Adding flying to ARR is not what has cost us a dungeon the devs focusing on new content did. Developement was not slowed by adding Flying to ARR covid 19 and the changes SE is making to accomidate it have slowed things down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Do you think making flying available in the ARR zones just entails moving invisible barriers? Do you really think it is that easy? HW, SB, and ShB had their zones designed with the intention that mounts can fly there. That is not the case with ARR. They now have to go back to zones that already exist, and modify them. You might also want to take note that invisible barriers are not removed. They will still be in place, just differently to accommodate the changes.

    The rest of your statement is why I brought up how allocation works in a previous post (you can't take five eggs from a basket that has only four). This metaphor is to express that no matter how many, or how few resources are allocated, that is the exact number that is not working on relevant content. No matter how much or how little time was spent on its development is the exact amount of time not spent on relevant content.

    I am not sure I can make it any more clear than that. Questionable decisions like this one are very concerning.
    The facts seem to point to them doing this in order to improve new player retention.

    Possibly we have lost content like Deep Dungeon this expansion because of it, but that doesn't make it pointless or questionable. Retaining new players is important, and obviously someone, somewhere in the chain of command, has decided it's more important than a new Deep Dungeon at this juncture.

    I'm currently choosing to assume they know what they're doing; if the future proves otherwise, fair enough, but complaining because improving the new player experience (most people leave during 2.1 so being able to fly - alongside the quest trimming etc - should significantly help) means less content for you is rather selfish and not what I'd expect from you, given your usual thoughtful posts
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