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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Judging by how you say they explained that too, we could use the same analogy and they could remove all jobs from the game except the monk and give ti 1 ability, then they explain it and its fine?

    This game is no where near being slightly close to perfection, and as such, we must give out any criticism or request we have, in a respectfull manner, if we want the game to succed. I dont get how ppl try to cancel negative comments that can only improve the game
    Uh, no. What you just said was incoherent. Reivaxe explained it perfectly in his first sentence. "Refuse to apply critical thinking". Because first off, by going off what you said on using the same analogy is completely incoherent regarding just one class. It wouldn't make sense to do it and they wouldn't. They gave detailed explanations as to why some things are going the way they are pushing it - Dungeons,Races, etc., through interviews and notes. I don't know if you read these, i assume not as you are lost.

    There is no such thing as a perfect game either. Because no matter, there will always be someone who "Whines". The community will always be split about what they want for the game and the developers will never win because you can't appease everybody. As for people trying to cancel negative comments that can "Improve" the game, it's because sometimes these comments have no logical or critical thought behind them. They may sound "Good" but in reality, not.

    And yes, we must give criticism and feedback. But however, the saying goes "Just because you have the ability to open your mouth, doesn't mean you should" should apply to quite a few individuals throughout this forum. Take social media for example - countless people saying incoherent stuff. Now apply that to this forum in terms of feedback and criticism.

    Sorry, i'm just sitting at work with absolutely nothing to do because of Covid-19 and my mind is racing. Just had to spew all this out. Nothing personal. It's just that i'm tired of people downplaying FFXIV because it doesn't "Have this or that" and "It should be this or that" and vice versa. Take the "Budget Expansion" thread for example. People are never happy and constantly whine even though they do try hard to appease everyone but simply can't. It irritates me. But this isn't about you, just getting it off my chest about the community in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    It's just that i'm tired of people downplaying FFXIV because it doesn't "Have this or that" and "It should be this or that" and vice versa. Take the "Budget Expansion" thread for example. People are never happy and constantly whine even though they do try hard to appease everyone but simply can't. It irritates me.
    This. I'm tired of the degree of complaints - and that people can't seem to post neutral discussion threads. We don't get a thread about the relic quest, we get "the relic quest is too short!"; we don't get a thread discussing the relic weapons, we get "the WHM relic is awful and SE should have tried harder!"... there's nothing wrong with a neutral title then saying you didn't like it, but what did others think of it?

    There's "constructive criticism" and then there's an endless flood of complaints from a forum full of people with incompatible opinions about how every single thing ought to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    This. I'm tired of the degree of complaints - and that people can't seem to post neutral discussion threads. We don't get a thread about the relic quest, we get "the relic quest is too short!"; we don't get a thread discussing the relic weapons, we get "the WHM relic is awful and SE should have tried harder!"... there's nothing wrong with a neutral title then saying you didn't like it, but what did others think of it?

    There's "constructive criticism" and then there's an endless flood of complaints from a forum full of people with incompatible opinions about how every single thing ought to be.
    This thread is the one I personally see as the largest whinethread though. I am pretty darned sure the Devs and their families know you people WANT MALE VIERA NOW. Please close this thread down, or I will more from supporting getting this M Viera to not support it and rather want a different race alltogether xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    This thread is the one I personally see as the largest whinethread though. I am pretty darned sure the Devs and their families know you people WANT MALE VIERA NOW. Please close this thread down, or I will more from supporting getting this M Viera to not support it and rather want a different race alltogether xD
    Or you could just i don't know, ignore it and move on if it bothers you that much. No one has a gun to your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    This thread is the one I personally see as the largest whinethread though. I am pretty darned sure the Devs and their families know you people WANT MALE VIERA NOW.
    Well yeah, that too. I only come in here occasionally.

    Sure, it'd be nice if they could get the other genders sorted, but they've made it incredibly clear that they know and that they would like to implement it if it were possible. So keeping on at them just feels like pestering at this point. (Or if they are secretly working on it, then they don't need to be asked to do it.)

    I certainly wouldn't want to be continuously asked about something I know people want from me if I know I can't provide it.

    That said... keeping thread going because you have new things to post is fine to me, but keeping it going "just to keep reminding the devs we want it" is what seems unnecessary.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 04-15-2020 at 10:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    There is no such thing as a perfect game either. Because no matter, there will always be someone who "Whines". The community will always be split about what they want for the game and the developers will never win because you can't appease everybody. As for people trying to cancel negative comments that can "Improve" the game, it's because sometimes these comments have no logical or critical thought behind them. They may sound "Good" but in reality, not.
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