Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Raltar]

'no' 'Can we go' 'it's my first time here you hop off or kick me out'

People like this make me upset there is a timer before you can vote kick someone. It's one thing if the guy was a DPS, because you can 3 man pretty much any dungeon in the game, but doing it without a tank is a lot more difficult with level sync. I mean, what the hell is that guy even thinking anyway? What goes through someone's head when they do things like that? How big of a piece of garbage do you have to be to do something like that?

[Cincierta]

People like this make me upset there is a timer before you can vote kick someone. It's one thing if the guy was a DPS, because you can 3 man pretty much any dungeon in the game, but doing it without a tank is a lot more difficult with level sync. I mean, what the hell is that guy even thinking anyway? What goes through someone's head when they do things like that? How big of a piece of garbage do you have to be to do something like that?

I honestly wish I knew. It wouldn't have been so bad if they were actually trying to use the /ac "Grit" command we were telling him to use, and we would've been on our merry way, but instead it was just...those responses.

[Rilifane]

I honestly wish I knew. It wouldn't have been so bad if they were actually trying to use the /ac "Grit" command we were telling him to use, and we would've been on our merry way, but instead it was just...those responses.

Which is funny because it would have taken them less time to just type in the command you gave him than typing the snarky stuff. It's not like you forced a 20 page long job guide down his throat, it was just one measly command for something that shouldn't even have to be mentioned. It's like asking dps to not stand around or healers to keep the party alive. Basic responsibility.
Forgetting it when getting synced and having the first pack ran rampant is one thing. Happenes to the best of us. But this was just petty.

[EaMett]

This is a bit of a rant against myself.

A bit of context: I'm a healer main, almost all my classes going into this expansion were 70, those that weren't were 60. This is relevant.
I've slowly been trying to get all my jobs to 80. I started with a few DPS, the content was pretty new so a lot of my roulettes (leveling, 50/60/70) were for the newer content with more experienced players. As more and more people were done with the new content I started leveling my tanks and healers. I had a lot of control over the speed and size of pulls as such.
Now after all of this I decided to tackle my lvl 30 DRG, one of only two jobs I haven't leveled to 80. And I'm hating it, absolutely, undeniably, hating it. The lack of AOE skills at lower levels is a pain but most of all, and as someone who often likes to crown up and mentor I hate myself for saying this, I get paired in lower levels with inexperienced players doing single pack pulls and still wiping. And not just once in a while, it's every single time. Now, I usually wouldn't care for this, it's not a big deal, we've all been there and done that in our day. Buuut, and even though I'm always chill about it, it's fine, there's just something about the fact that I'm already waiting 30mn to get in and then have to crawl another 30mn through an already long totorak dungeon, that it's not just one instance every now and then but always like this, and that I didn't have access to any other roulettes until lvl 50 (aka this was basically my entire experience leveling, no diversity) that really got to me. It doesn't help that this coronavirus lock-down basically means it's really tempting to just leave party and try my luck again after 30mn.

DRG looks like a melee class I would enjoy but I'm still reeling and although things are better I'm still not fully out of the woods. Can't wait to hit at least 60. Me running a bunch of stuff with my static is also slowly getting me used to the comfort of well synchronized play. Double edged sword.

[Miste]

Also...man you seem kind of harsh, relax dude...
saying stuff like "fragile ego", and getting kind of snarky when you said "I am not really in the habit of making up stories when I post.", like I'm not accusing you of lying, the key word in what I said earlier was "naturally", meaning, that's a instictual reaction whenever I hear stories of events I wasn't present for. And I don't like how you're not even attempting to see it from their point of view, yes, they were objectively wrong, without a doubt, but at least acknowledge things that you personally could've done different to keep the peace. Self reflection is always a good thing, even when you were mostly right.

You're just doing the same thing that I was saying people shouldn't do. You are assuming harsh when I am not. You assume I am snarky when I am not. You are assuming my state of mind, when you don't actually know it. I was perfectly relaxed when I replied, and I still am.

You said you would take my words with a grain of salt and questioned if what I said is "EXACTLY what happened", so I clarified my stance that I don't really make a habit of dramatizing or making things up, you know, to assure you that it is exactly what happened. You replied, I answered. There was no snark in it, and I didn't care if you questioned the situation nor did I say you were calling me a liar.

People need to stop inferring tone through text and making assumptions about the tone or state of mind of the person typing to them. Those kinds of actions cause conflict when there didn't need to be any. When talking through text a lot of the time you really need to take things at face value instead of attaching your personal feelings to someone elses words.

You feel I was being harsh in my reply to you, but is that what I felt when I typed my reply? I can assure you I was not feeling that. Was I feeling snarky in my reply to you? Also no. You say I was not relaxed, but I was. So you got a lot incorrect.

You assume negatively immediately, when tone isn't easy to convey or receive through text, and you then behave less cordially to the person, possibly become rude to them, or even lash out at them like the monk did by griefing the entire party. I've seen this mindset a lot online, many many times. It isn't a new thing by any means.

You made so many assumptions about me so quickly based on just my written explanation. Directly saying I was harsh, snarky, and that I need to "relax dude".

Compare what you wrote here to my first reply to you earlier. Do you see anything in there where I labelled you or your words as anything? I talked about myself, my opinions/thoughts, the situation, my reasoning, and used general "you" throughout the reply. Not once did I label you as anything or attribute emotions onto you or your words with assumptions. It was all just my opinion/thoughts and trying to explain myself and my point of view of what happened.

Sometimes one side can create conflict due to negative assumptions when in reality conflict didn't exist because the negative assumptions they had were incorrect. Just something to think about.

The Monk did have a fragile ego, sorry, but that is my opinion. They took someone asking them a simple question, then asking them not to return if they die, and decided to grief the entire party over it. I'm using the monk's actions ingame to formulate this opinion, not just some benign text.

I will not look at it from their point of view, because they proved they don't deserve that kind of respect. They had zero respect for the party when they griefed us all.

I'm not sure why you think anyone in that party would look at it from the Monk's point of view after what they did. The monk lost that privilege when they griefed us. You can't expect someone to care about you when you blatantly prove you don't care about them.

I'm also not sure why you are trying so very hard to put blame on me, it's like you are dead set on making sure I have at least some blame for this situation, but I'm sorry it is a wasted endeavor because I will never change my opinion for this specific case. I have nothing to acknowledge.

[Rosenstrauch]

I've been doing E7S prog all week, and running it for hours late at night, I can get a little sloppy at times. Usually it's nothing bad, but tonight I did have a painful incident. After about two hours of prog with a group, including multiple post-adds attempts and one tornado phase, we had three attempts back to back that were screwed up due to the same person mishandling warp/tethers by teleporting to my spot... or so I thought. Each time, I pointed it out. The first two times they apologized, citing their tiredness. But the third time, they pointed out that they'd done the mechanic right and I was the one who screwed it up.

Well, they were right. I did screw that one up. I also realized I'd screwed up the second attempt, too. I've no excuse for it: I straight up made a big error without even realizing it twice in a row. I no longer have the person's name on hand, but if you're reading this: I'm sorry.

[AnonymousBard]

Which is funny because it would have taken them less time to just type in the command you gave him than typing the snarky stuff. It's not like you forced a 20 page long job guide down his throat, it was just one measly command for something that shouldn't even have to be mentioned. It's like asking dps to not stand around or healers to keep the party alive. Basic responsibility.
Forgetting it when getting synced and having the first pack ran rampant is one thing. Happenes to the best of us. But this was just petty.

Feels bad man.

I havent done it in a while (Watch it happen next run now that I said that) but its always embarrassing if not kinda comical. Only thing going through my mind as I watch my party slowly getting slaughtered is "S*** S*** S*** S***". Still haven't figured out the trigger for it randomly turning off. I feel like I've noticed it when doing multiple roulettes in a row when they have big lvl gaps. Like if I get a Sastasha then a Great Guble Library, I notice when I start the latter, my tank stance is off. But if I run say, Temple of Qarn then Stone Vigil, tanks stance stays on. Weird.

(Obviously class swaps disable it for all the Captain Obvious' out there).

[AnonymousBard]

Snip

I've done that before on accident. I was zoned out playing my BRD on The Burn. Died on the final boss for messing up and eating a couple stacks. But when I was downed I had this instinctual reaction to press "OK" to rez (because I'm used to playing Tank and normally Tank gets rezzed almost immediately) but no, I was not accepting a rez, I was accepting the prompt to respawn outside the fight. Something I realized the second the command went through.

Whoops.

[KalinOrthos]

You know, I thought they had nerfed Orbonne Monastery, so I decided to do it on my alt, just so I can jump right to the relic when I get to 80.

Parties B and C did great. Very few mistakes on their part, though they did have a couple quite clearly new people that were just seeing the fight for the first time.

Party A, though? My party? All but one of the healers said they had done it before. But oh my god. We wiped to Agrias because our tank decided not to actually tank the add, party wiped a couple of times on Agrias in fact, and we caused two Alliance wipes on TG Cid. Everything from the healers not actually healing the Doom debuff away, to not DPSing the shadows, to pulling Crush Weapon through the entire party, to not dong Duskblade, etc...

I get not knowing how to do the fights the first time you go in. Hell, I love to do Alliances blind. But how can you not see a mechanic and not learn it? Even simple markers like the stack and spread markers are disregarded. It's like COVID-19 comes with public brain-melt. I don't understand how people can be so unfathomably ignorant of their surroundings.

I'm also not sure why you are trying so very hard to put blame on me, it's like you are dead set on making sure I have at least some blame for this situation, but I'm sorry it is a wasted endeavor because I will never change my opinion for this specific case. I have nothing to acknowledge.

Not should you have to change your opinion. That monk was being a dingus, plain and simple. Not sure why TheForce is so adamant on making you the aggressor. We genuinely need to cut this victim blaming mentality from this game, and we need to stop excusing atrocious play, this sort of "My sub, I can play how I want" garbage mentality that I assume this monk had. This game, by design, is meant to be multiplayer.

[Enla]

You know, I thought they had nerfed Orbonne Monastery, so I decided to do it on my alt, just so I can jump right to the relic when I get to 80.

Parties B and C did great. Very few mistakes on their part, though they did have a couple quite clearly new people that were just seeing the fight for the first time.

Party A, though? My party? All but one of the healers said they had done it before. But oh my god. We wiped to Agrias because our tank decided not to actually tank the add, party wiped a couple of times on Agrias in fact, and we caused two Alliance wipes on TG Cid. Everything from the healers not actually healing the Doom debuff away, to not DPSing the shadows, to pulling Crush Weapon through the entire party, to not dong Duskblade, etc...

I get not knowing how to do the fights the first time you go in. Hell, I love to do Alliances blind. But how can you not see a mechanic and not learn it? Even simple markers like the stack and spread markers are disregarded. It's like COVID-19 comes with public brain-melt. I don't understand how people can be so unfathomably ignorant of their surroundings.



Not should you have

Sadly people hear that it's 'nerfed' and automatically parse that to mean that they don't have to do mechanics anymore. I was pretty sad that they borked Cid's damage but after consistently getting Orbonne more times than not since the nerf I'm almost glad they did it. Between the newbies who are playing because of the quarantine, the vets who think they can steam roll old content, and the casuals who have no have no interest in learning the skills to be in anything but 4 man dungeons I can't even begin to imagine how much of nightmare that raid could have been if it hadn't been nerfed. It'd be release week all over again.