Shadowbringers starting to feel like a budget expansion

[dinnertime]

We each have our reasons to play a game. For me, personally, MMO's are a time sink. As long as I enjoy the base (combat or otherwise) mechanics, as long as I have things to do, and be reasonably rewarded for them, I am mostly content, even with mediocre content.

I am having fun, because I enjoy the basic mechanics of the game, even in a boring, repetitive context, working towards a guaranteed bigger reward which my subjective judgement deems worthy.

For the other kinds of fun and entertainment I play other games, as an MMO rarely provides enough in quality or quantity.

Seems that way. Again for me personally if I don't enjoy the grind, it's simply not worth my time, even if the rewards are reasonable or good. I just play to have fun, not to feel busy.

It's still possible for a grind to feel repetitive but still fun to do, but I just don't see that about Eureka in particular. Anyway to each their own then.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The sheer number of likes his comments keep getting defies that assessment LOL. He's speaking for a large part of the community that's tired of getting insulted and told to unsub every time they offer a criticism of the game.

He doesn't have a sheer number of likes lol, he has a few, probably from the same people always complaining on these forums.


A lot of likes in a short amount of time here is around 100. Not 14.


Besides, I like that I can take time off to play other games without feeling like I'm going to fall way behind. I only have so much time Ina week, what with work, raid taking 3 weeknights, and so on.

[EVA-Souls]

I like dungeons, I like them alot. Really bummed about them cutting back on them, especially when I've yet to see where those resources are going. But like others have said, it's only 5.25. If one dungeon means we instead get four weapon trials I'd be more than ok honestly.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Here comes defend squad, they jumped out of the plane, did a hero landing and proudly telling everyone that a less content to do is a great idea.
One says that doing 1 dungeon instead of 2 somehow increased quality, but it's still wall to wall pull fiesta, so AI could handle it.
Other one used copypasta about 74 dungeons and that we should get less following by that logic, because somehow old content should be viable again for some reason.
And the last one comparing hunts to 4 man content.
They like avengers, but with red noses.

I did a Hero Landing? Was it Awesome?
Send me the Replay, I wanna see how cool I look.

But before that, please tell me how 1 less dungeon hurts the game. Im still waiting to hear a good reason why 1 less dungeon is cause for alarm.
Also can you argue at all that the 2 current new dungeons aren't in fact better then the Previous Lv80 Dungeons? Wall to Wall Pull Fiesta has been a thing in every single dungeon since Satasha, so whats your counter point? Why do we need 2 Wall to Wall Dungeons instead of 1? And how does getting 1 hurt the game and why does it spark such an extreme reaction out of people?

[LaylaTsarra]

Eureka was a good content i enjoyed a lot playing it with my old FC, it was a lot of fun when we tried to follow the train and try not to die. :P

I took many of my alts through it in addition to my main and that includes BA. It was a fun time for me I adore open world content.

[yukiiyuki]

But before that, please tell me how 1 less dungeon hurts the game. Im still waiting to hear a good reason why 1 less dungeon is cause for alarm.
Also can you argue at all that the 2 current new dungeons aren't in fact better then the Previous Lv80 Dungeons? Wall to Wall Pull Fiesta has been a thing in every single dungeon since Satasha, so whats your counter point? Why do we need 2 Wall to Wall Dungeons instead of 1? And how does getting 1 hurt the game and why does it spark such an extreme reaction out of people?

You know, this is a game, you suppose to play it. 2 simpistic dungeons gave me 60 minutes of gameplay, for example, now I got only 30 minutes of gameplay. Maybe they made something instead, that could bring me those 30 minutes of gameplay? No, there no such type of content that done that. Maybe they reworked their design behind dungeons and make this one more fun and engaging? And once again — no. So they just took that 30 minute of gameplay and give nothing instead.
Maybe if you don't want to play this game, its fine for you, but I do, so more gameplay means more time spend in game.

[yukiiyuki]

People seems to forget something, but hey, we're just whiny bad guys here, right? :^)

[Colt47]

I'm going to say this does feel cheap right now. Beyond just the new relic, the Savage DPS checks feel way too heavy handed compared to the past two savage seasons and the content that is keeping me in the game is primarily in Storm Blood since I never did crafting before. Also the new "primal" fight is really weird since it doesn't help someone get the relic weapon, it's for getting armor that can have dye applied.

[LaylaTsarra]

Maybe if you don't want to play this game, its fine for you, but I do, so more gameplay means more time spend in game.

Looking at your lodestone you have 3 roles at 80. Barely touched gather/craft. Seems to me there is a lot more for you to do in game if you choose to do so. Now if that other stuff doesn't appeal to you well I can understand why your dungeons appear to be so important to you. But the fact of the matter is most dungeons are run once for a clear and then people run roulettes to level roles. Most people don't run those dungeons outside of roulettes once they get a clear so your premise that there will be a lot more to do just doesn't fly.

Sure having 3 or 4 dungeons in an expert roulette would be nice but running expert is done once a day not multiple times a day and many people don't even run expert to get/cap tomes anymore. I think SE recognizes that and is adjusting what they do accordingly.

[KageTokage]

Beyond just the new relic, the Savage DPS checks feel way too heavy handed compared to the past two savage seasons

E8S was honestly the only major outlier in this tier as far as as how rough the DPS check was.

E5S and E6S were about as bad as E1S and E2S, while E7S was a total joke compared to E3S.