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  1. #61
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Wow... I'm honestly baffled you could think it's acceptable to twist what I said into "I'm jealous of anyone who's not struggling financially".

    ...Sounds stupid, doesn't it? You can see what I said a certain way and then base your whole argument on that if you want, but my point still stands: you can't just tell people to stop subbing to the game if they're poor. That's literally what you said. You said to maybe not play a game with a monthly sub and focus on more important things. That sounds like someone saying poor people shouldn't have things. If you didn't want it to sound that way, maybe consider phrasing it differently.

    Also, honestly, basically saying "you're jealous I have money and you don't" is really tacky. I'm sure you'll say I based that off nothing, but your post is right there for everyone to see what I'm referring to.

    You also ignored the one thing I said that was about the topic at hand, which is "people don't want this". Funny that it's the one thing you ignored.
    I don't disagree with the statement that people don't want this. I even stated so before. However, I couldn't ignore the stupidity in your other points that had to be called out.

    I'm speaking about people who can't afford a roof over their head, and you state "you can't just tell people to stop subbing to the game if they're poor". There's a huge difference between being poor and being close to homeless. Prioritizing a video game over your own well being is not wise. Suggesting otherwise just sounds stupid, doesn't it?

    Earlier in my life when I was still in college, I couldn't afford to pay my power bill, so they came and shut off my power to my apartment. I ended up having to make sacrifices, I quit gaming for a time including canceling my FFXIV subscription. I had to prioritize my well being over enjoying expensive luxury hobbies like gaming. Telling people I said, "Poor people shouldn't have things" is completely disingenuous.

    You pulling a single comment of mine to showcase like an achievement after taunting me with your previous comments shows exactly the kind of individual you are. Honestly you aren't even worth my time, have fun writing more provoking comments in the forums to people to get a rise out of people, I'm done with you.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    This is exactly what I was thinking when I proposed my idea. Of course, I want everyone to have a house without having to pay extra as my first choice. But, I was taking SE being a business into consideration first.
    And the thing is, I'm sure there are plenty of people living in smalls and mediums that would gladly pay to upgrade to a large house in premium wards, which would open up vacated houses for people that would rather not. There's no way that this could make things worse. More people paying and not paying would have houses.
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  3. #63
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyanna_Elingval View Post
    And the thing is, I'm sure there are plenty of people living in smalls and mediums that would gladly pay to upgrade to a large house in premium wards, which would open up vacated houses for people that would rather not. There's no way that this could make things worse. More people paying and not paying would have houses.
    I'd consider myself to be in that category.
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  4. #64
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    I'm in) Take my money
    Well, if we already have option buy additional retainers, it be nice having private island near Mist. And if you change mind pay for it, you can't teleport there like they did with retainers, you simple can't choose them.
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  5. #65
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    Antoine Lenheim
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    I know I may be necroposting but wanted to share my thoughts as well.

    I honestly dont understand why this idea got buried in dislikes so much. Common objective here I see is "I dont want to pay for house when I already pay for sub". Well, nobody is forcing you? OP just proposed another way to get yourself a house that will not require you to camp at placard and losing your sanity while clicking for countless hours. You will still have this option, SE will still continue to add these "normal wards". Nothing is going to change. Its just with "premium" wards you will have a choice, you can pay some extra money to save yourself from this or you can continue camping n praying. Its always good to have choices, dont you think?

    And maybe it wont help in battling housing shortage directly but at least those of us who can afford adidtional monthly fee can pay this extra and enjoy being in the housing community, without the need to camp. I quite frankly dont understand what is so wrong about it. House flippers and RMTers? Well, this is what happening at the moment anyway, people buy gil from websites for real money, then they go to a seller who sell his house, pay this money to him, he relinquish his plot for us and then we pay server price. Its already underground economy, housing black market. So whats so bad about legalizing it? Instead of buying gil from other websites to then pay this gil to a house seller you can buy house directly from SE. Nothing bad I see about it.

    So yeah, I support this idea of yours Ftail, though Im afraid SE will never do something like this x) Thanks for bringing it up tho.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoine_Lenheim View Post
    I honestly dont understand why this idea got buried in dislikes so much.
    Because paid premium housing won't add more housing to the game. It would only segregate what already exists to wealthier in real life players.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Because paid premium housing won't add more housing to the game. It would only segregate what already exists to wealthier in real life players.
    Well technically the sheer number of wards and plots WILL increase, its just will only be available for real money. Whats so bad about it? In your opinion, is it better to use third-party RMT services then for the same purpose of buying a house from an underground seller or legalize it completely so now you will be buying house directly from SE? And those who arent wealthy wont be affected at all, its not that ALL of housing will be for real money. It probably wont help in increasing housing shortage directly but considering that there wont be any form of instanced housing or something else in near future, it would be nice to at least have a choice.
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  8. #68
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoine_Lenheim View Post
    W it would be nice to at least have a choice.
    I would like a choice to buy all the Savage mounts and weapons too or any other difficult item in game. Lets include Ultimate while we're at it. Sure lets put those all up on Mogstation and let people pay real money for them. Sorry but I don't agree with premium paid for housing and I'm confident this is something that will never happen.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I would like a choice to buy all the Savage mounts and weapons too or any other difficult item in game. Lets include Ultimate while we're at it. Sure lets put those all up on Mogstation and let people pay real money for them. Sorry but I don't agree with premium paid for housing and I'm confident this is something that will never happen.
    I am fairly confident that it will never happen as well, nobody questions that x) Just interesting to read different ideas about what could be done to housing.

    And Im not sure I understand why you comparing endgame progression content to something that is already a niche priveledge which for some people requires to use RMT services as it is x) Farming for mounts/clearing EXs n Savages = fun. Camping at placard for 15h a day n praying, making your finger go numb = no fun.
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    Last edited by Antoine_Lenheim; 04-11-2020 at 09:51 PM.

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoine_Lenheim View Post
    Well technically the sheer number of wards and plots WILL increase, its just will only be available for real money. Whats so bad about it? In your opinion, is it better to use third-party RMT services then for the same purpose of buying a house from an underground seller or legalize it completely so now you will be buying house directly from SE? And those who arent wealthy wont be affected at all, its not that ALL of housing will be for real money. It probably wont help in increasing housing shortage directly but considering that there wont be any form of instanced housing or something else in near future, it would be nice to at least have a choice.
    If they find it profitable, what's going to motivate them to add any new wards for subscription-only users? How does the new paid ward function? If everyone paying wants a large house and it's just a duplicate of the current ward system, they have to charge enough for 3-6 mansions to support each of the paid wards. What if everyone paying wants Shirogane Plot 30? You now need 60 paid wards running just so people can have that plot?
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