Shadowbringers starting to feel like a budget expansion

[KaimaSansun]

I think honestly the biggest issue the game faces is that lots of the content released is dead within months and they give no incentive to go back to most of it, and for a person like me who has been here since alpha 1.0 it just feels lacking in giving something to accomplish, i just want some kind of progression, some reason to go back to do old content with new folks, in where i get something in return that i might need at my level for doing it.

As for the viera/hrothgar thing i think we're just beating a dead horse at this point because while gender locks are bad and such they kinda put themselves in an unfixable corner by not working on letting have the normal hairstyles first before the ones they gave them, as well as the fantasia to change hrothgar hair fiascle.

As for dungeons, 1 dungeon is fine in my opinion if instead of doing 2 expert dungeons in the rotation, put all the expansions dungeons into rotation giving the tomestones only after being 80, so at least we have a variety of dungeons that could be pulled from.

As for the old primal weapons and such, i think its more just them not wanting to go back and work on old content as he has said over and over, but i feel like at the very least they should make more different looking variations on the astrologian, gunbreaker and dancer weapons for example, cause right now a lot of them are too similar to where it just feels like we have small selections.

As for relics, lots of people complained about the first way of making a relic, then lots complained about the 2nd relic, then lots complained about eureka that it took too long and too much work, now people complain it's too easy, they are never gonna win on this topic because no one knows what they actually want, instead i would rather they worry less about the obtaining method and more on making them unique, making all of the previous and new relics upgradable in later expansions, so it's worth actually doing them to have them be useful later on for the hard work. Not to mention that locking the dyable af gear behind an ex trial is a bad idea because at the point of them adding it, you can already craft 480 slot it well and will be upgraded to 490 later, as well as get the tome gear or savage gear.

As for deep dungeon, as much as its fun content, we aren't even that far into the patch cycle so who knows what will come down the line and that goes for hildibrand too.

As for the pvp stuff, i feel like this expansion hasn't really shown too much love for it, could be that they felt they gave it a lot last expansion, or could be that its coming later on but either way, we just gotta wait.

Overall just enjoy the game and what we got at the moment, especially with the pandemic and quaratines happening, because at the end of the day all of this could stop at any moment, are we getting what we want? no not exactly but there are lots of things that we didn't know we wanted and were added by the team, and it always seems like people overlook that stuff and aren't appreciative of the things we are getting. Don't judge expansions based on what we have gotten basically a few patches in, wait til it's over and then judge whether it sucked or not.

Anyways just my thoughts,

[Gula]

Worth of title "Shill of the year", keep going pal.
Finished product means everything work as it suppose to be, look at Aura, if they fixing it by overworking, that means they had issues in ther sheldue.

Woe is me for liking the game I pay to play for and looking at logic before acting on raw indignation without delving deeper into the why. Curb your passive aggressive jibes "pal". Or would you like to have a back and forth South Park style, friend?

[CaptainFishSticks]

If you are not enjoying the game you can take a break. I know its crazy talk but you can especially considering how easy it is to catch up by design. I could respond to everything you have gripes about but it won't resolve anything or change your mind so I won't waste the time.

I wouldn't even take this as derogatory. Even Yoshi-P has expressed in the past that if you're not enjoying the game you're not obligated to continue playing. Take a break to recharge yourself.

[Sesera]

Woe is me for liking the game I pay to play for and looking at logic before acting on raw indignation without delving deeper into the why. Curb your passive aggressive jibes "pal". Or would you like to have a back and forth South Park style, friend?

Just because you like everything about what SquareEnix do in this game doesn't mean everyone is.

But yeah game is perfect, its only 5.25 lets wait for the expansion to be over to draw conclusion about how lacking it was. Sounds like a good way to improve the game.

[yukiiyuki]

Woe is me for liking the game I pay to play for and looking at logic before acting on raw indignation without delving deeper into the why. Curb your passive aggressive jibes "pal". Or would you like to have a back and forth South Park style, friend?

looking at logic
>SE got rid of 2 dungeons per patch
>No deep dungeon this expansion
>One less zone for relic grind with unique mechanics
>New races can't wear helmets or use existing hairstyles
>New not PVE content is dead after few weeks
>Restoration is just Collectables in new wrapping
Do the math.
"Curb your passive aggressive jibes", would love to, but keep seeing people like you going into every topic that disscus problems and trying to say that everyone here is wrong and that this game is awesome and their complains is nothing. I literally had to argue with someone, who tried to explain that LESS DUNGEONS are better, giving relic for 1k poetics is great idea and having 1 hour of gameplay is more than enough, because they have another games to play.
It really feels like a circus where you must deal with bunch of clowns

[Nedkel]

This is one of the only MMOs that update frequently and in a 'short' amount of time. Expansions coming out every 2 years.
With how many new races, jobs etc. they need to keep track of and update means more workload for them with future assets.

In the end this is just an assumption, and people like to joke "small indie company" but we really don't know what is going on. What we do know is that they did work overtime for the 2 new races to have glasses.

No its not.
ESO, Neverwinter, Wow, destiny 2, GW2, POE, Swtor.
All these mmorpg/online games give out content patches in the similar or same frequency as FFXIV does.

You may give out this argument in stormblood or in Heavensward and it would be valid, back then SE indeed had the best patches on the mmorpg market, but not anymore.

[dinnertime]

No its not.
ESO, Neverwinter, Wow, destiny 2, GW2, POE, Swtor.
All these mmorpg/online games give out content patches in the similar or same frequency as FFXIV does.

You may give out this argument in stormblood or in Heavensward and it would be valid, back then SE indeed had the best patches on the mmorpg market, but not anymore.

"One of the only" not "Only".

[Nedkel]

The games been dying since August of 2013 when it relaunched. People made doom and gloom topics weekly then too. The games still kicking though.
It does amuse me, as someone who's been around since launch and never unsubbed, seeing people with forum join dates of less than a year saying there's nothing to do and they are bored, when I'm still finding stuff to do on a weekly basis that I haven't completed yet.

I have a lot things to do in this game as well, but you know those activities are not fun (due to them being under 80 lvl) or are irrelevant and outdated. Its like saying people being bored in WoW should go do garisons, okay but why should they do it, if its not fun and boring to begin with?
Housing, gardenings, crafting, fishing, its a nice touch for the small minority of players who do that, but still majority of fun comes battle system which has been consequently gimped and dumbed down and reduced in content to the minimum. Doing dungeon roulette became a sad joke, battle content available at lvl 80 is really small and does not fit in people between casuals and savage raiders. They should have at least bring back old dungeons and make the relevant to the lvl 80, this would cost them very little, but they dont even think about doing so.

If i wanted to play sims i would buy sims 4.

[Riardon]

The expansion itself felt very high quality.
The patches that followed it not.
I don't know what they are doing behind the scenes but we got less content.
The Qitary beast tribe Qs were rushed, the Relic weapon was completely absent and we basically got it for free if you exclude some nice lore and few extra cutscenes. There was no gameplay involved.
Dungeons reduced to 1 was a major blow.
Everything feels less now and I got less things to do until next patch which is also delayed.
There is something wrong going on with the development unless they are preparing something massive that takes their time.

[reivaxe]

fAu Ra could wear headgear at launch
Au Ra could wear all hairstyles at launch
Au Ra had both genders

This topic starts off on such a lop-sided and aggressively stupid point IDK how anyone can take the rest seriously lol

These forums ... such a poop show.