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  1. #231
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Komi Shouko
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    We did get shared fates. Many of the people who claim to prefer Eureka still haven't finished those even though they offer similar rewards and gameplay as Anemos.
    Eureka wasn't fun because we were doing fate but because you were playing with people, helping each other and so on.

    Sorry but doing fates alone with my chocobo and actually socializing with people while spawning fate/chilling and do fates together is very different.
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  2. #232
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    Define no-life. Last time I could no-life FF in any meaningful way was back in Eureka / HoH. Thats one pretty damn long vacation...
    "No-lifing" typically happens for me when an expansion is released. Esp leveling crafters/gatherers.
    Keep in mind though, that I usually have a busy schedule and consider playing 4hrs per day already "no-lifing".

    Obviously some unemployed person will see that # of playtime as too little. (not directed at you specifically)
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  3. #233
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    Eureka wasn't fun because we were doing fate but because you were playing with people, helping each other and so on.

    Sorry but doing fates alone with my chocobo and actually socializing with people while spawning fate/chilling and do fates together is very different.
    Fate parties are a thing outside Eureka as well. I saw many party requests in the field zones when shared fates were first released. Those who actually like the content played through it.

    However, if it's very hard to get a group of people nowadays to do fates together even though lots of people still haven't finished collecting the rewards... that kind of proves what a flop Eureka would have been if relics had not been locked behind it.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 04-08-2020 at 10:09 PM.
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    look its great that some people enjoy it
    but the point of the forums is feed back and people need to complain or question Devs decision so going "ugh complainers" isn't really doing anything.
    Exactly.

    Most Devs actually like complaints, as long as they aren't insults or flame wars. They're capable of going through them and recognizing which are just individual rants, and which are legitimate player concerns reflected in their own data. They encourage small breaks but absolutely do not want players to "quit and go find another game if you don't like it". The silent quitters are the least useful player for a developer, because you get zero indication of why they quit.
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  5. #235
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    However, if it's very hard to get a group of people nowadays to do fates together even though lots of people still haven't finished collecting the rewards... that kind of proves what a flop Eureka would have been if relics had not been locked behind it.
    Hell, my group and I said "screw it" during pagos, even WITH the relic.
    Pagos (pre nerf) traumatized us enough to never attempt it again, even after it was Anemos 2.0.
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  6. #236
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    You kinda described Pagos light farm. Might be an issue with execution, but I can attest: it wasn't that much fun.
    Ehh...

    Pagos light farm was not particularly rewarding for killing mobs.

    It actually boiled down to being more efficient to farm FATEs for Light than actually doing any of the dedicated Light farming, outside of maybe having a party farming Morbols for Cassie (Not the entire train though and you'd need the party to all be max level and ideally already have BA weapon for increased elemental level in order to kill them quickly enough to be decently rewarding)

    Which is not ideal, given how it's basically "Get a perfect team together" or "Go mindlessly farm the boring FATEs"

    Rather than being actually rewarding for killing things. Where you get something actually worthwhile from killing most enemies with the chain bonuses being able to give you nicer things.

    Anemos was literally the worst for mob rewards too, given that they gave a much crappier crystal than the one you needed for upgrades (On the once in a blue moon event of them actually dropping something, which was a theme across all of Eureka, even Light in Pagos was not particularly common even before you got the RNG of how much light that ranged from an insignificant spec to 2 whole bars of light from the same enemy)
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  7. #237
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    Ill will admit it was short. The story was good but i wouldn't mind having a bit longer. I do understand some people did not do the raids before this was release. Compared to the other ones i wanted to do a bit more.
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  8. #238
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    Novae Ombreloup
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    Faerie
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    The first step was way too short for me. The solo instance was cool, and I hope they'll use it again in future patches.
    But if you exclude the marketboard, the relic weapon takes less time to make than any crafted weapon ( since mats requiere tomes + several DoH, DoL AND are on timers). And these aren't really difficult to make either.
    The new EX trial is nice too but I don't care about ShB AF gear.
    So, back to the same 2 dungeons EX roulette again for the next 3 months? No thank you.
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  9. #239
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    This thread right here. Perfect example of why most forums suck. I just finished the relic quest and kept thinking how good it was and how the devs continue to deliver quality content.

    It took me about five hours or so to finish everything because I never did the Ivalice raids. So I did the entire series in one sitting.

    For me this was a great night. Went and knocked out Ivalice which I would normally not do. Then did a truly engaging solo duty to get the relic weapon. And since I literally went from Orbonne Monastery directly to the relic quest, it felt like one big story.

    So for all my effort I got relic weapons for the three jobs I have at 80. It was awesome and felt very rewarding for the long night of gaming. And you know what? The queues for the raids were about five minutes, if that, for a DPS, so lots of people were doing them. This tells me that a lot of people were probably happy to get the clear and then be rewarded with a nice weapon at the end of the night.

    This truly is a great game and I’m happy to be part of it.

    But carry on with your griping.
    Congrats on the opinion. Unfortunately it doesn't invalidate other's opinions.
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  10. #240
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    Lersayil's Avatar
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    Lhei Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    snip.
    I think that was much later in the Eureka cycle? Back when Pagos was current I distinctly remember FATEs being horrible for light. I did 4 weapons in Forge or mid dragon chain groups. Both basically boiled down to somehow 30 chaining dragons. Forge group cheated the chain with the trashy vine mobs, while the mid group was just farming dragons all to the top.

    After a while I remember I had to drop to BLM or some other low APM job since the endless non-stop combat for hours on end caused my fingers to hurt.
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    Last edited by Lersayil; 04-08-2020 at 11:12 PM.

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