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    It does feel like their budget is smaller but I feel like the developers and staff are doing a brilliant job with what they have, it's more that Yoshi's aversion towards certain features, anything that moves the game forward and his priorities on how to structure the game seem so jumbled. The relic is a 1 hour quest, 8 mans are a weekly 10 mins but things like AF glam are locked into EX (not that I disapprove), Ocean Fishing is very complex and the Ishgard DoH/L achievement mount takes months of endless grind. It's just so inconsistent, they have no direction.
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    When the expansion is over then a determination can be made. At this point doing it is all salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    When the expansion is over then a determination can be made. At this point doing it is all salt.
    Salt is a valid form of feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    from how little content we've gotten this expansion compared to previous ones is making me wonder why xiv is so underfunded. so let's have a quick review shall we

    Au Ra could wear headgear at launch
    Au Ra could wear all hairstyles at launch
    Au Ra had both genders
    SAM and RDM still got level 60 primal and tome weapons despite being outdated content, and everything from level 50.
    They got: Bismarck, Ravana, Thordan, Sephirot, Sophia, Nidhogg, Zurvan, All tome weapons (Hellfire and Shire), All three Alexander raid tiers. On top of all the base primals like Shiva and Ifrit, etc.
    SAM and RDM both had PVP weapon models right away.
    SAM and RDM continued to have new models added through 60+ content
    Stormblood had new PVP content and glamours shipped out the gate.
    Stormblood launched with a complete PVP overhaul (not a good thing though)
    3 dungeons per patch in HW
    2 dungeons per patch in SB
    Relics that took longer than an hour to get
    Savages had unique and innovative mechanics
    2 Ultimates
    Deep dungeons

    but in Shadowbringers...
    Viera cannot wear most headgear
    Viera cannot use all hairstyles
    Viera are gender locked
    Hrothgar cannot wear most headgear
    Hrothgar have 4 hairstyles and cannot change that at the aesthetician
    Hrothgar are gender locked
    GNB and DNC have had two starting weapon models made for them (Shire and the steel one you start with)
    GNB and DNC got nothing else in the level 60 range.
    GNB and DNC got none of the level 70 weapons beyond Scaevan, Ryumakyu and Omega, not a single primal at launch.
    No: Susano, Shinryu, Byakko, Tsukuyomi, Suzaku, Seiryu, UCoB or UWU, A SINGLE omega raid tier, and only 2 tome weapons. Not even the basic primal weapons from ARR that everybody has at launch.
    GNB and DNC have about 20 total unique weapon models, the rest being reskins. Yes even the new ultimate alex weapons are just reskinned Shire and Forgiven weapons.
    Shadowbringers PVP glams almost didn't happen but yoshida needed somewhere to put the contest design winner from Stormblood.
    1 dungeon per patch
    No crafted SB primal weapons at launch
    1 ultimate
    No deep dungeon
    Savage fights designed by B-team
    First off buddy - race has no value in actual "Content" of a game. So half your list is invalid already. Also, "Weapons" are not that big of a deal either in terms of actual content. If you actually took the time to read reddit posts of interviews and the actual patch notes they release, there is a lot they add aside from the 90% "small" things you listed.

    And lastly, ShB ain't over yet until the next expansion. So there are still things to come. So making this list even though ShB is still going on is pointless even though like i said, most of your list is "small" stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    Salt is a valid form of feedback.
    No, it really isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    No, it really isn't.
    Pretty good at measuring player satisfaction or lack there of. Salt or not, most people are giving reasonably well worded complaints too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    Salt is a valid form of feedback.
    Not when all they do is is complain about everything here. EVERYTHING. Gets to a point I'm sure the devs don't even bother to read stuff here.
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    Even if people opt to ignore the 'salt', there's been plenty of constructive feedback posted on the forum across numerous different threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    Pretty good at measuring player satisfaction or lack there of. Salt or not, most people are giving reasonably well worded complaints too.
    Very true. Some are. And some are just being salty. One is feedback. The other isn't.
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    I've noticed this. Even thought they rather do a good job with what they provide, there is something odd. There are two things I can't get ride in my mind :
    They plan a great overhaul.
    They plan a new generation MMO.

    SE is really but really really quiet about its two AAA licences they are working on. I more and more think they have a new MMO in the pipes (to be announced somewhere between the 6.0 and the 7.0 and beta released just after the 7.0... to encourage people to play both XD).
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    Altoholic
    La normalité n'est que la moyenne de nos folies individuelles.
    Normality is just an average. I'm the weird, you're the bizarre.

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