Is it time we had another free retainer?

[DelSolstice]

If you're even a little into crafting, three retainers is practically mandatory, and not just for holding stuff: a BTN, MIN, and hunter are required if you don't wanna drive yourself mad. It might lose a little money for SE shortterm but would create a better playing experience.

[Avidria]

Do people not realise you can just throw items away? Or am I the only one who does this? I have everything at 80. I craft often but I don't horde any items I don't need. Just sell them on the market board or vendor them. Rebuy or gather stuff you need only when you need them. Do you really need those Yellow Yarzon legs?

The only good suggestion I've seen in this thread is the upgraded material vendor. Perhaps a vendor where you trade him a HQ item and in return he lets you purchase items with the same name, so once you have gathered the things once you no longer need to grind. Cap it at level 70 so newer stuff doesn't lose its value.

However with the amount of GP gatherers have now and how easy it is to access even this is unneeded. Stop hoarding stuff.

The majority of my inventory space is taken up by glamour and by furniture, mostly stuff that's expensive or some kind of dungeon loot/stuff that would be annoying to get again. Some of it is cash shop stuff. I regularly go through and get rid of stuff I haven't used in a while and reassess what I might not use often, but it STILL fills back up again quickly - even with me tossing stuff I like and want to keep, but just don't have enough room for and don't like as much as something new. There's just not enough space for stuff like that, as someone who collects and changes glamour often. My glamour dresser is full and just about everything that can go in the armoire is in it already.

I have two retainers mostly full of glamour, and my third has nearly two sections of furniture I can't place or store because my house and apartment are both furnished and you can't relocate a house if more than 400 items total are in it. And as far as I can tell you can't store outdoor furnishings in an apartment (unless something else was wonky when I tried...).

Leveling crafters and gatherers really just made a problem I already had even worse.

Frankly my personal problem would be pretty much solved if they greatly improved the glamour system to have way more storage slots, or to take something wow actually managed to do right (imo) and find a way to save appearances that DOESN'T treat the gear like it's still gear that needs to take up an inventory slot. Save appearances, and let me glamour them without needing to keep the item.

[Fland]

If you're even a little into crafting, three retainers is practically mandatory, and not just for holding stuff: a BTN, MIN, and hunter are required if you don't wanna drive yourself mad. It might lose a little money for SE shortterm but would create a better playing experience.

It depends on what you mean by "little into crafting", but as a casual crafter, the two free retainers are enough for me for now.
Personally, I only hold materials that are either expensive on market board or gated by something to be gathered.

[Skivvy]

Do people not realise you can just throw items away? Or am I the only one who does this? I have everything at 80. I craft often but I don't horde any items I don't need. Just sell them on the market board or vendor them. Rebuy or gather stuff you need only when you need them. Do you really need those Yellow Yarzon legs?

While I get that hoarding items can be an actual problem, the above argument doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. This just about always gets tossed out as a reason for why SE shouldn't give players a third free retainer after 6 years.

I find that when I'm in my crafting moods, I can be working on a lot of different items at once. I also prefer to gather/craft any needed mats myself to save gil when I can. So when that mood strikes, I can be needing A LOT of various materials. It is a hassle to constantly have to go out and farm up more items, or buy more items when you could have already had them stocked in your storage. So sure, selling off any excess materials as soon as you're done crafting will help your inventory woes, but it makes any future time spent crafting that much more annoying as you'll have to spend more time gathering materials....again.

[VenKitsune]

Honestly considering how much they pushed for people to start crafting i dont know why they haven't already done this.

[Moonlite]

Honestly considering how much they pushed for people to start crafting i dont know why they haven't already done this.

Or if it is a server limitation some of the SE apologists claim. Fix damn item bloat in this game. They missed a great chance to overhaul the items for crafting with the big push to get everyone into crafting. Would it hurt the lore police if they deleted at least half if not more of all mats from 1 to 70. Crank up the xp even more in those levels and people won't even remember that the game has a 50 types of sand (just a guess). This would make the 999 stacks look even better and not cut into the cash flow. Because extra MB space, ventures and glamour storage would not eliminate people from paying for more.

[Barraind]

Would it hurt the lore police if they deleted at least half if not more of all mats from 1 to 70. Crank up the xp even more in those levels and people won't even remember that the game has a 50 types of sand (just a guess).

That would require another overhaul of the ARR and HW doh/dol job quests, and changing a LOT of leve requirements, crafting recipes and workshop turnins.


Should they do that? Probably. Will they? Doubtful, its a lot of overhaul.

[Kuroka]

Crank up the xp even more in those levels and people won't even remember that the game has a 50 types of sand (just a guess).

https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ing_lv=&q=Sand

Its 17 + 4 from Ishgard... still a lot. Considerring all of it has ore as well and some splits in Ingots, nuggets and on some cases 2-3 other things...


Also, stuff like ishgard or old mats from Relics, especially eureka doesnt help much either. Yes i can farm it again but still, i wont toss all the crystals and boss drops and stuff, cause i know I wanna make more Relics at some point.

And as so many pointed out, the cash shop and event stuff is a problem, especially Garden stuff, wall designs etc... I can store 400 Items in my houses' storage but not as much on the garden.

[Moonlite]

That would require another overhaul of the ARR and HW doh/dol job quests, and changing a LOT of leve requirements, crafting recipes and workshop turnins.


Should they do that? Probably. Will they? Doubtful, its a lot of overhaul.

If i am remembering wrong the DoL leves have their own item to collect when leve starts. They could delete useless recipes or just eliminate the item needed in the recipe or just have it a generic replacement item like some custom deliveries have now. No overhaul to actual jobs needed. A better follow through would be desirable. But Ishagrd gathering and crafting really gives them a way out to just do it and say we will clean it up later.

[Esmoire]

Yeah. Unfortunately I can't feel sympathetic for their limitations when they make a lot of really bad decisions for how they operate in their constraints. It's amazing how, for example, a metal can become an ingot, nugget, rivet, plate, etc, when really only only 2 forms are necessary. Also a lot of random ass bugs and stuff you can gather for one recipe that no one cares about. Of course, as a player, we just throw out the stuff that's pointless, but it's still problematic. It's heaped upon all the other stuff FFXIV has new players have to process, and it's getting in the way of them doing some kind of more elegant system. Like, if we could keep crafting mats under 40 for ARR, under 30 for HW and SB, some kind of dedicated crafting inventory would be much more feasible. Instead they just keep applying bandaids that cost them more in the end.