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  1. #431
    Player
    ArchlordPie's Avatar
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    Apr 2017
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    98
    Character
    Archie Dailemont
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    I've never really been a healer main. I keep my SCH geared because I get it leveled for free by leveling my main and tend to have more uncapped tomes than I know what to do with, and I play it whenever my FC needs a high level healer for something more than it needs a high level DPS, but it's far from my favorite class to play. I don't remember much about pre-5.0 SCH, but I do miss having more than one DoT.

    That being said, the 5.0 changes ruined AST for me. I was enjoying leveling it back in the 4.x days, got it to 50 along with WHM, and vastly preferred AST to WHM because of the card system and the different things I could do with it. I liked that every card was unique and while dropping a Super Balance (at least that's what I called it in voice chat when I had a Balance drawn with the "increased power" effect ready) right at the start of boss pulls was fun and all, the thing that really sold the class for me was that, at least in low-level dungeons where you didn't have all your fancy oGCD buttons and a lot of players weren't playing anywhere close to optimally, every card had a purpose.

    Of course Balance was the best, because it was the DPS card. But I still got plenty of use out of the others, whether it was Ewer helping me manage my own MP (and giving me reason to laugh at a BLM who insisted I give him all my Ewers "so he doesn't have to do ice phase"), or Bole saving the sprout tank who overpulled and can't find his cooldowns.

    Nowadays, all the cards are mini-Balances, which I find INCREDIBLY boring, and they had to add some convoluted-looking seal system in order to justify still having six base cards instead of just "the melee card" and "the ranged card". I'm gonna have to level this eventually if I want my Soul of Magic title, but I'm REALLY not looking forward to that...
    (4)

  2. #432
    Player
    Ftail's Avatar
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    Jul 2015
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    Character
    Lilac Blackthorne
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Switched my main from SCH to DRG and I'm having a lot of fun with it... It's refreshing to do an actual rotation instead of casting Broil hundreds of times...
    (11)

  3. #433
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Character
    Grim Gaelasch
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I can see the beauty in trying to optimize your healing. What healing you can forfeit to squeeze more damage out, so I get how that could get healers to stay engaged at endgame.

    But at the same time, who in their right mind would bend over backwards to squeeze yet another goddammed broil spell. I swear, I am not an optimizer at all and I still get fed up with the amount of broil I have to spam. Hundreds of broils, back to back with the occasional Biolysis+ED... Please Square give us another button to break this monotony.
    (9)

  4. #434
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    Truen's Avatar
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    May 2019
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    Limsa
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    304
    Character
    Brunox Sky
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 82
    I've quit playing the Scholar. Coming back to the game, I was shocked and saddened to see what they did to my job! Miasma 2, Bane, Shadowflare, among other abilities I enjoyed using as part of my job were stripped away in addition to the originality separating the two fairies and what they brought to the game.

    I played SCH a bit the other day and couldn't stand just hitting "1" Broil button a million times while cycling a single dot. Art of War really isn't even worth using.

    I'm convinced those behind these changes don't play healers and/or care about the quality of play involved with those who do. Since when shouldn't we have DPS options? It's ridiculous to take so many of them away from us; all classes should be able to do damage. If a balance needs to exist between my ability to heal and do damage them it's my job to find it--I absolutely HATE the Shadowbringers version of Scholar.
    (9)
    Last edited by Truen; 03-30-2020 at 06:31 AM.

  5. #435
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    Leidolf's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Leidolf Kvasir
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Art of War is also unsatisfying in the grand scheme of things, on top of being an MP sink.
    (3)
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  6. #436
    Player
    Ramesses's Avatar
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    Sharlayan
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    1,393
    Character
    Prince Nuada
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 70
    Yep, I stopped playing on all my three healing jobs since patch 5.1--- below is an image of my healer absolutely turning his back on this madness

    (5)
    "After ten years, finally headed to Sharlayan... absolutely stoked"


  7. #437
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    FoxCh40s's Avatar
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    Character
    Source Eldion
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I swapped to Astro because I was so absolutely bored with Scholar; I've mained Scholar since 2.2 and just cant do it anymore, I need some form of minor complexity.

    That being said, I'm thinking of just saying screw it and going Summoner. I'm just absolutely completely fed up with how they keep treating healers and it just keeps getting worse. They keep balancing for the lowest common denominator of skill, and those people STILL cant keep up with Healer. Enough is enough Square, make the game more complex and allow people who dont care or keep up to fail. We still kick people who are bad, and nothing you can do will make us stop doing that, no amount of dumbing down, no amount of homogenization.
    (10)

  8. #438
    Player
    Truen's Avatar
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    Character
    Brunox Sky
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxCh40s View Post
    Enough is enough Square, make the game more complex and allow people who dont care or keep up to fail. We still kick people who are bad, and nothing you can do will make us stop doing that, no amount of dumbing down, no amount of homogenization.
    Well said.
    (2)

  9. #439
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Character
    Yesunova Hotgo
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    As a compromise.

    Offer people more tools to learn and improve. Accessibility doesn't just have to come from dumbing down stuff. Perhaps put a requirement to use these if need be. Learning and getting better if anything can be a rewarding experience, being good because it's easy is not.

    Maybe add a beginner level healing job if need be that lacks complexity and have the remaining ones vary in complexity but be more complex and not feel watered down.

    If SE wants to make stuff easier and more accessible there's options available without screwing with those who favour more complexity.
    (3)

  10. #440
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    MitsukiKimura's Avatar
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    Malboro
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    Character
    Mitsuki Akiyumi
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I had quit for a couple of months because AST cards and its system just makes me frustrated and lost all love for it. Now I will only play AST for my static savage raids, I rather play tank or DPS if I choose to do any other content.
    (2)

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