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  1. #111
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    Sam West
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Hmmm I can see that being the case for some people, but many others I think want ...

    Often you'd want your character to have exaggerated features (e.g. muscle tone, figure) so you can feel good about role playing as such person.

    With "role playing" I basically mean personal immersion, not social role playing.
    More than immersing to be THAT character, it has to do to make a more realistic representation.

    Female characters have boobs that can be modify to a smaller or larger size in a modest escalate. Male characters deserver the same. Many people qho gets teigger with respect to the male crotch point out that is too lewd. It is dunb to think that way. Dev team sgould stop giving us excuses of but we are males and don't know nor want to think about it.

    They even consider the legs of a man too lewd. We can't even have a normal short. They are too long or extremely short that makes it weird (which make them compared to female fashion) or juat make pants which is too much. I would ask to make more female outfits normal. There are too many lewd outfits out there that make other think that female players wants to be represented in such a way.
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  2. #112
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Any sliders that is affecting the in-game armour models are never going to be implemented.

    There are too many items and races that would need to be adjusted in order to make it look reasonable. Hence why butt slider is never going to come either.
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  3. #113
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Any sliders that is affecting the in-game armour models are never going to be implemented.

    There are too many items and races that would need to be adjusted in order to make it look reasonable. Hence why butt slider is never going to come either.
    Except for the fact that some armor provides alterations to various parts of the female model, either making them bigger or smaller depending on the piece or pieces. This is despite having a bust slider already in place. You can't say that sliders are affecting the in game armor models, because the devs ignore them anyway 99% of the time. lol That being said, armor providing said enhancements (like the 2b legs for example) is likely all we are going to get moving forward, which is better than nothing in regards to character customization. Male characters will likely continue to receive little to nothing outside of a muscle slider. This is fine by me, truly, but I wouldn't exactly call it fair.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-23-2020 at 04:26 PM.

  4. #114
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Except for the fact that some armor provides alterations to various parts of the female model, either making them bigger or smaller depending on the piece or pieces. This is despite having a bust slider already in place. You can't say that sliders are affecting the in game armor models, because the devs ignore them anyway 99% of the time. lol That being said, armor providing said enhancements (like the 2b legs for example) is likely all we are going to get moving forward, which is better than nothing in regards to character customization. Male characters will likely continue to receive little to nothing outside of a muscle slider. This is fine by me, truly, but I wouldn't exactly call it fair.
    I may be wrong, but those size alternations that occur on glamours during the animation are hard coded into animations themselves.
    That probably means SE needs to adjust every single piece, on every single race and for every single animation, because the armor woouldnt behave on itself with character movement due to the lack of physics implemented into the game engine. So that means if you move your character a bit with a flying piece of gear notice how animation is the same all the times. Im pretty sure their game engine barely has any physics implemented into the armor and any sort of size changes, wiggles or giggles need to be modeled and implemented manually into the game. Probably its done that way to make the game run smoothly on the consoles by reducing the amount of processing power needed to run the game, even more im pretty convinced PS3 CPU was the reason it is done that way not another, since it would require really a ton of code to make physics run properly on that console with its cell architecture.

    Thats why its never going to happen, SE would have to adjust hundreds of items multiplied by the number of races, since races do not share same item model and needs exclusive adjustments for each race or change the game engine altogether which would require even more work.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 03-23-2020 at 05:04 PM.

  5. #115
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    This topic again? Guys, a bulge slider not going to happen. It's too difficult.

    What we will get is gear which "enhances" features. S.E. already have released gear which has done this. You need to look no further than 2B's leg gear.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    This topic again? Guys, a bulge slider not going to happen. It's too difficult.

    What we will get is gear which "enhances" features. S.E. already have released gear which has done this. You need to look no further than 2B's leg gear.
    Not on men, we get our already flat posteriors shrunk even further ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



    But yeah, 2B's outfit is meant for females so I don't really care about it, but it does proof that gear can be modeled to give better* butts and groin areas soooo....

    [*By better I don't mean some noticeable melon between the legs (THAT is lewd), just don't make it a perfect 90' curve, it's weird]
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  7. #117
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    I’m honestly shocked at the amount of people crying “iNsEcUrE” or “tHiNk aBoUt tHe chILdReN” lol. I personally am not against either gender having more modified items like 2B bottoms or sliders. And if that bothers you, or offends you, I think that shows how insecure you are. Not the people wanting it.
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  8. #118
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    Sathona Jun
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    First world problems.
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  9. #119
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    Bonuille Larouchette
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    Ehhh... I'm not sure anyone would even see the bulges if they were implemented anyways, most people keep the camera far back and it's rare anyone even sees the front of their character in active play, not to mention that it'd be absolutely covered up by armor and stuff with the sole exception being swimsuits and bikini armor. Like don't get me wrong, I am ALL about character customization being improved since the current system is akin to picking 1 of 4 faces and 1 of 4 features and choosing color from a palette instead of a wheel, doesn't help that the actual size adjusts just don't really matter anyways since tits and ass get squished or inflated depending on the armor you're wearing.

    Especially for caster classes that pretty much always have some kind of dress/skirt/robe that just covers everything up...

    I'd much rather they fix the game engine to have some kind of physics system and just get rid of console compatibility entirely, the game is immensely hamstrung by the engine shortcomings and the archaic reliance to keep it running on entirely outdated hardware, but that won't happen, SE is making bank on FFXIV and they can barely manage to actually fix their 2 new races 8 months after release. Their system is so horrific to work on they can't even adjust existing content to suit the new races, there's a smattering of applicable helm items, 0 preexisting hair models, Hrothgar are a mangled mess, Viera ears are apparently tied to helmets in some way, and the base model of every single race has slippers on because the engine can't handle slightly adjusting height for shoes...

    I can't imagine how badly the bulge slider would be implemented even if they did try to do it.
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  10. #120
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    Avi Taro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctisnine View Post
    No thank you, we don't need to make this game like every other shit mmo out there.
    I'm out here like what have I missed bc I have never seen this as an option in any MMO I've ever played lol
    Most I have didn't even have bust sliders xD didn't even know this was a thing
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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