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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    A chemist is a physician, a medicus, a doctor. Their purpose is to treat the ill and wounded. An alchemist is someone who studies a sort of mix of science and philosophy, with a purpose of trying to find the secrets of the universe, including but not limited to finding the cure to everything, even death.

    This is only confusing to some people because "alchemist" contains the word "chemist" in it.
    That's not a good analogy. A Chemist is a synonym for a Pharmacist in English. In the UK, local pharmacies are even called chemists. A chemist is a term that also encompasses anyone involved in the research and study of chemistry, for example, professors within university chemistry departments. The etymology of chemist is the same as alchemist so it is not enough to say that it's just confusion over containing the same string of letters. Historically, most scientific disciplines were highly saturated in religion and esotericism before the age of the scientific method came about and the transition from alchemy to chemistry is no different. I would also be willing to bet that the reason the job is called a Chemist instead of Alchemist in past FF games is that it's a shorter version of the word to be able to fit into 8 bit string limits. This is supported by the job actually being called Alchemist in X-2 with all of the same iconic Chemist abilities like Mix and Stash. Having them be 2 separate jobs in XIV would need some reason behind it beyond "ones a doctor and ones a pharmacist".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    That's not a good analogy. A Chemist is a synonym for a Pharmacist in English. In the UK, local pharmacies are even called chemists. A chemist is a term that also encompasses anyone involved in the research and study of chemistry, for example, professors within university chemistry departments. The etymology of chemist is the same as alchemist so it is not enough to say that it's just confusion over containing the same string of letters. Historically, most scientific disciplines were highly saturated in religion and esotericism before the age of the scientific method came about and the transition from alchemy to chemistry is no different. I would also be willing to bet that the reason the job is called a Chemist instead of Alchemist in past FF games is that it's a shorter version of the word to be able to fit into 8 bit string limits. This is supported by the job actually being called Alchemist in X-2 with all of the same iconic Chemist abilities like Mix and Stash. Having them be 2 separate jobs in XIV would need some reason behind it beyond "ones a doctor and ones a pharmacist".
    Except that it isn't called anything close to Alchemist in FFV, the game the job originated from. These jobs originated in a Japanese game, all the English names are just localization choices. And every iteration of Chemist after the FFV job has had a completely different name, not to mention that the FFT job isn't even the same job.

    You also seem to have completely misunderstood what I wrote, because no, one isn't a doctor and the other a pharmacist. Alchemist is neither.

    If you want examples of what a renkinjutsushi job would look like (which is what FF14's Alchemist is), take a look at some of the games like Final Fantasy Explorers and The 4 Heroes of Light. Those are Alchemist jobs. The FFV job, Chemist, is not.
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    Last edited by MomomiMomi; 03-22-2020 at 08:38 AM.