Opinions: Ishgardian Restoration

[Alleo]

Getting 500k in this short time requires a lot of grinding, you are not meant to get everyting in 2-3 weeks, just cut your crafting by 300% and do other things to not burn yourself out.

If you dont grind at least quite a bit (even if you dont do this daily) you will probably take months or maybe even years..they could have easily give us the mount after getting one DoH and one DoL to 500k and it would still take most of the people quite a bit of a time..that achievement would be better placed in a Asia grind F2P MMO..

In the end Ishgard restauration has turned into nothing but an utter grindfest for rowena like turn ins. You either craft that one expert item a huge amount of time or another. The few fates that we have are still as boring as the first ones and just take longer to spawn and honestly Diadem was only fun for the first few times afterwards (especially if you want to win a title) its nothing but mindless grind again. At least I can watch some lets plays next to it. The only thing fun was the new attack in it and I wished we had more of that and less of just pure grind.

For it being the endgame content for crafters and gatherers it feels bad to me. In the end its just Rowena with a different look. The next steps really have to be absolutely great to make me change my opinion.

[Ultimatecalibur]

If you dont grind at least quite a bit (even if you dont do this daily) you will probably take months or maybe even years..they could have easily give us the mount after getting one DoH and one DoL to 500k and it would still take most of the people quite a bit of a time..that achievement would be better placed in a Asia grind F2P MMO..

In the end Ishgard restauration has turned into nothing but an utter grindfest for rowena like turn ins. You either craft that one expert item a huge amount of time or another. The few fates that we have are still as boring as the first ones and just take longer to spawn and honestly Diadem was only fun for the first few times afterwards (especially if you want to win a title) its nothing but mindless grind again. At least I can watch some lets plays next to it. The only thing fun was the new attack in it and I wished we had more of that and less of just pure grind.

For it being the endgame content for crafters and gatherers it feels bad to me. In the end its just Rowena with a different look. The next steps really have to be absolutely great to make me change my opinion.

Remember this only stage 2 and the Grade 3 stuff is likely to be worth even more points. The Pterodactyl is supposed to be a goal that will last through till 6.0 and beyond and the crafter/gather Skybuilder relics are also in the future.

[Alleo]

Remember this only stage 2 and the Grade 3 stuff is likely to be worth even more points. The Pterodactyl is supposed to be a goal that will last through till 6.0 and beyond and the crafter/gather Skybuilder relics are also in the future.

We dont know if that is the case. And still for most people even just having one for each would be enough.

and it should take that long, you dont get hunt mounts in 1 week either even now when getting them has become much faster.

No you dont but there is a big difference between a few weeks and a couple of farming and taking maybe even years..again if you take it down to one its still 1 million points to get..this is still a huge grind for anyone not utterly hardcore or no living it. What it does is to take away the motivation to even try it. And all of that for a mount that already exists as a monster in the game.

If I average 20k points a day, I can have the mount achievement completed in about 10 months. That's really not that bad. It gives me a long term goal to work toward rather than becoming another piece of content that's completed the same week it's released then forgotten.

I definitely can understand that some feel it is disappointing as an end game for crafters right now. But still it's contributing to server wide progress on what's likely to be a new housing district, something that many players have been asking for. And it opens the door for SE to expand on Expert craft related content in the future, much as squadrons led to Trust and the Doman Enclave was likely a testing ground for the Restoration.

Of course those with huge amount of time on their hand and nothing else to do in the game might be able to grind it but still..just doing 20k points a day (which will be hours of hours of Diadem per day) will take you nearly a year. That is insane imo. (I mean there could be middle ground between having everything in a week and having to grind to at least a year for it..)

But I guess its just easier to do content where you barely do anything new, reuse a map again and add one new stuff to it and then make it "long term" by just putting a lot of zeros behind the number for the achievement. So kinda like a lot F2P grind MMOs. I mean if that is the way that achievements go..instead of being fun.

Maybe instead of dropping the mounts in savage people should just clear it 5k times to get it. Might completely turn away anyone that isnt ultra hardcore from ever trying but at least a couple of those might be happy.

[RyuSaarva]

If you dont grind at least quite a bit (even if you dont do this daily) you will probably take months or maybe even years..they could have easily give us the mount after getting one DoH and one DoL to 500k and it would still take most of the people quite a bit of a time..that achievement would be better placed in a Asia grind F2P MMO..

In the end Ishgard restauration has turned into nothing but an utter grindfest for rowena like turn ins. You either craft that one expert item a huge amount of time or another. The few fates that we have are still as boring as the first ones and just take longer to spawn and honestly Diadem was only fun for the first few times afterwards (especially if you want to win a title) its nothing but mindless grind again. At least I can watch some lets plays next to it. The only thing fun was the new attack in it and I wished we had more of that and less of just pure grind.

For it being the endgame content for crafters and gatherers it feels bad to me. In the end its just Rowena with a different look. The next steps really have to be absolutely great to make me change my opinion.

and it should take that long, you dont get hunt mounts in 1 week either even now when getting them has become much faster.

[Jojoya]

If you dont grind at least quite a bit (even if you dont do this daily) you will probably take months or maybe even years..they could have easily give us the mount after getting one DoH and one DoL to 500k and it would still take most of the people quite a bit of a time..that achievement would be better placed in a Asia grind F2P MMO..

In the end Ishgard restauration has turned into nothing but an utter grindfest for rowena like turn ins. You either craft that one expert item a huge amount of time or another. The few fates that we have are still as boring as the first ones and just take longer to spawn and honestly Diadem was only fun for the first few times afterwards (especially if you want to win a title) its nothing but mindless grind again. At least I can watch some lets plays next to it. The only thing fun was the new attack in it and I wished we had more of that and less of just pure grind.

For it being the endgame content for crafters and gatherers it feels bad to me. In the end its just Rowena with a different look. The next steps really have to be absolutely great to make me change my opinion.

If I average 20k points a day, I can have the mount achievement completed in about 10 months. That's really not that bad. It gives me a long term goal to work toward rather than becoming another piece of content that's completed the same week it's released then forgotten.

I definitely can understand that some feel it is disappointing as an end game for crafters right now. But still it's contributing to server wide progress on what's likely to be a new housing district, something that many players have been asking for. And it opens the door for SE to expand on Expert craft related content in the future, much as squadrons led to Trust and the Doman Enclave was likely a testing ground for the Restoration.

Feel like they're using this as a test case for how grindy they can make the crafter relic, lol.

1,5 mill points needed fro crafter relic incomming xD

I'm sure they're using the combat relic weapon grind as a guide for the Skytool grind. There will definitely be a lot of crafting and gathering involved to progress the tools but it won't be based on Skyward points.

[Kuroka]

I'm sure they're using the combat relic weapon grind as a guide for the Skytool grind. There will definitely be a lot of crafting and gathering involved to progress the tools but it won't be based on Skyward points.

What i wish for is just using some bound crafts you cant get on the MB, which you have to gather or trade for tokken yourself. Id love that on any relic but welp, i guess it sill is too hard to level crafters lol