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    You discredit Myon too much Jack. He's a fellow mentor at The Balance just as I am, and granted while his role has changed he was once one of our resident MCH mentors with a much better grasp and understanding of matters than most people I encounter, even if, like yourself, he has gotten heated in discussions when people misuse information. While I don't always agree with the delivery, it's not a position I disagree with when people are throwing rhetoric all over the place. I'm just generally a lot calmer and it takes me a lot longer to start getting really irate about how people sometimes act. But I also have my limits for tolerating bs.

    So for the sake of discourse, both of you drop your back and forth and instead of attacking the messenger, focus on the messages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemekh View Post
    You discredit Myon too much Jack. He's a fellow mentor at The Balance just as I am, and granted while his role has changed he was once one of our resident MCH mentors with a much better grasp and understanding of matters than most people I encounter, even if, like yourself, he has gotten heated in discussions when people misuse information. While I don't always agree with the delivery, it's not a position I disagree with when people are throwing rhetoric all over the place. I'm just generally a lot calmer and it takes me a lot longer to start getting really irate about how people sometimes act. But I also have my limits for tolerating bs.

    So for the sake of discourse, both of you drop your back and forth and instead of attacking the messenger, focus on the messages.
    Titles mean as much as people give them weight. If this person is a mentor, i feel it gives a negative light to what a 'balance mentor' means and significantly lowers any conceived weight to information they want to convey.

    You can defend them all you want, but you have a "mentor" that only knows ad hominem, and refuses to confront any information they disagree with without acting like a child. If you really want to brand them as a representative for the Balance, it's going to do more harm than good for your community unless they change their attitude.

    Surprising as it may be to you, there aren't many mentors there that I'd qualify as a "mentor". You gather data and information, you help people, you have discussions with people. YOU are a mentor, or at least the closest thing I'd consider a mentor from said group. Myon? no. Myon is just somebody who can play their job, that you guys granted a status to simply by that factor alone. It has no weight, it has no meaning, the only thing special is their raid performance and nothing more of their character, or ability to 'mentor'. By this logic, anyone who scores about 95 should be a balance mentor, and thats not a metric I'll agree with, because you'll just include every idiot savant at that point.

    I'm sorry for being difficult, but I doubt I can respect somebody who stands on a high horse that refuses to look at the world around them, nor could they respect I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
    Titles mean as much as people give them weight. If this person is a mentor, i feel it gives a negative light to what a 'balance mentor' means and significantly lowers any conceived weight to information they want to convey.

    You can defend them all you want, but you have a "mentor" that only knows ad hominem, and refuses to confront any information they disagree with without acting like a child. If you really want to brand them as a representative for the Balance, it's going to do more harm than good for your community unless they change their attitude.

    Surprising as it may be to you, there aren't many mentors there that I'd qualify as a "mentor". You gather data and information, you help people, you have discussions with people. YOU are a mentor, or at least the closest thing I'd consider a mentor from said group. Myon? no. Myon is just somebody who can play their job, that you guys granted a status to simply by that factor alone. It has no weight, it has no meaning, the only thing special is their raid performance and nothing more of their character, or ability to 'mentor'. By this logic, anyone who scores about 95 should be a balance mentor, and thats not a metric I'll agree with, because you'll just include every idiot savant at that point.

    I'm sorry for being difficult, but I doubt I can respect somebody who stands on a high horse that refuses to look at the world around them, nor could they respect I.
    Very well said which is why i refuse to participate in their community, I've followed their posts on the forums on multiple Occasions and there was a whole lot of this, A Title is just that, a Title it mean's nothing if the person cannot and doesn't have the proper character to own up to a title and proves nothing but nepotism, this kind of behavior is counter productive to the community and serves only selfish values and nothing to the English FFXIV Community as a whole, it does everyone here a disservice to be looked down on by a community in such a fashion it seems like a power play at trying to establish a power position in a hierarchy then it is to provide selfless resources to the community.

    I applaud your clear view and offer you all i can a "Like"
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