Ocean Fishing mount frustration

[TaleraRistain]

Yeah I'm just not even bothering with this. At least with Big Fishing it only depends on you and your own planning and abilities. But fishing is the red headed stepchild of the gathering professions. I have multiple fishers at 80 and still think the RNG is very bad design, especially in comparison to the other two, and they don't make the rewards anywhere near worth the effort.

[SorrowsEnd]

First, congratz on your mount. You did indeed put a lot of effort into it, and no one can say you didn't earn it.

Now to address a couple of things:

Now that you have your mount, I am curious if the fisher bug caught you. An ironic twist about fishing, is that despite how frustrating it can be, it is also really addicting because the feeling of accomplishment from getting an elusive lord can really get your feel-good hormones flowing. In your case the mount. It could also have the opposite effect, and you'll never touch a rod again. Should you choose the path of the former, you should know that there are fish out there with even more stupid RNG, and MUCH smaller windows to catch them in than this boat.

Realize that the other people who want to get on the boat might have other objectives other than getting a minion and mount. It's all good if you're starting parties with like-minded players, but you should know that the players who are not in your group can use whatever bait they want at their own discretion. If there is a player there trying to close out a log, they may not want the spectral effect at all and will deliberately use the wrong bait in an attempt to avoid it.

Last is being in a party does not increase the odds of the spectral effect. The only thing that does this is the number of lines being cast all using the same bait. Even this is up for debate because I have caught the fish required to trigger the effect using bait other than what has been recommended. Due to the heaviness of the RNG factor of this content and fishing in general, I am honestly going to say that what truly increases the odds are simply the number of casts within the time frame. I would avoid highly coordinated efforts, and instead instruct your party members to not do things like /sit, throw fish back, desynth, repair, or anything that cuts into the number of cast times during the trip.

The leave and queue again is going to get fixed. Don't worry about that. Those of you who are doing this; I wouldn't get used to it, and enjoy it while it lasts.

I've always enjoyed fishing I don't mind fishing for big tier fish or average fish. Fishing in itself is nice and relaxing. I'm not a super big fisher but I enjoy it and get the higher tier fish for gil is always nice. Getting the higher tier fish can be a pain with the windows yes but at the same time i'm only relying on my rng and my skill. The biggest reason I disliked ocean fishing so much is because it is required to rely on other people in a already huge rng style class.

[Gemina]

I've always enjoyed fishing I don't mind fishing for big tier fish or average fish. Fishing in itself is nice and relaxing. I'm not a super big fisher but I enjoy it and get the higher tier fish for gil is always nice. Getting the higher tier fish can be a pain with the windows yes but at the same time i'm only relying on my rng and my skill. The biggest reason I disliked ocean fishing so much is because it is required to rely on other people in a already huge rng style class.

I hear ya. This does not require other people though. Last night I almost got the mount solo. I missed the 10k mark by 60 points. Favorable RNG with x3 current changes, and plenty of '!!' during those phases; plus efficient double hook use got me plenty of points and the 80% bonus. One or two more catches would have took care of it. It takes only one person, and one catch to trigger the effect. And with really favorable RNG, I have no doubt a solo player can also get the 'chievo. The other 23 players on the boat only help the chances of triggering the rainbows. Literally nothing they do can hurt those chances. Only reduce the number of them.

[Canadane]

I hear ya. This does not require other people though. Last night I almost got the mount solo. I missed the 10k mark by 60 points. Favorable RNG with x3 current changes, and plenty of '!!' during those phases; plus efficient double hook use got me plenty of points and the 80% bonus. One or two more catches would have took care of it. It takes only one person, and one catch to trigger the effect. And with really favorable RNG, I have no doubt a solo player can also get the 'chievo. The other 23 players on the boat only help the chances of triggering the rainbows. Literally nothing they do can hurt those chances. Only reduce the number of them.

A lot of theorycrafting has gone in to indicate spectral currents spawn more often with less players. A way of sorta futureproofing the content for people that have missed the boat.
While extra players would always help catch more spectral fish, the change to proc a spectral current on each bite goes down.

While not concrete yet, it seems to be somewhat verifiable. Also a plausible way to keep the boat interesting when alone.