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  1. #51
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    Macleod's Avatar
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    A'sharr Tia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfess View Post
    I mean, you wanna talk smack? Put your money where your mouth is boi.
    It's physically impossible to put my money on anything here, this is an MMO forum...and besides, I know I'm right. I also can probably tell by the way you're acting in this thread how you ended up getting banned from Tera, which is also why I'm done with this thread. I don't care to continue arguing with someone that did enough to get themself banned from a game for whatever reason you didn't specify in your comment earlier. Have fun enjoying the terrible tab targeting that will never get fixed! LOL ...I'm not saying I don't want it to be fixed/improved, I'm just saying it's highly unlikely after this long.
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  2. #52
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    If you're playing on PC and using tab to target, you're doing it wrong.
    Explain your methods.
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  3. #53
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    Eldred Draconis
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Explain your methods.
    Are you that dense, or do you really need an explanation for what the only other targeting method is?
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Are you that dense, or do you really need an explanation for what the only other targeting method is?
    If you mean clicking, vastly inferior.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    If you mean clicking, vastly superior.
    Fixed the text for you.

    Selecting targets via mouse will ALWAYS be faster and more efficient than tab targeting. Full stop. This is a fact, not an opinion.
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  6. #56
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Fixed the text for you.

    Selecting targets via mouse will ALWAYS be faster and more efficient than tab targeting. Full stop. This is a fact, not an opinion.
    The most optimal solution is, quite frankly, to use both.

    Tab targeting has the benefit of being immune to enemies being behind other enemies in large mobs.
    Clicking doesn't allow that (or, more accurately, it has a TON of trouble with it), but if the enemies are all spread out and you want to select a specific one, it is faster.
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  8. #57
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    Waliel Hla
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    Tab targeting is also very funky with big enemies. If your camera is tilted down slightly or you're too close to them or whatever, it just doesn't target them. You have to be able to see the middle of their model or whatever for them to even register as a target for tab.
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  9. #58
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Selecting targets via mouse will ALWAYS be faster and more efficient than tab targeting. Full stop. This is a fact, not an opinion.
    Countless computer scientists and cognitive scientists will tell you you're wrong. Full stop. This is a fact, not an opinion.

    Fitts's Law states that the time and difficulty of rapidly acquiring and interacting with a target increase as the distance to the target increases and the size of the target decreases.

    It's much easier and faster to press a fixed-size, stationary key on your keyboard, provided you have mapped your keys appropriately so that, e.g., the Target Nearest Enemy keybind is something close to home position like [G]; and even if there are several enemies on the screen, one can tab cycle through them faster than they could click as long as you have your camera pointed the right way to exclude distant targets. It is actually unusual for mouse targeting to be faster than keyboard targeting, and combat is playable entirely without a mouse if you're a tank or DD.

    Mouse targeting may be faster if you're trying to acquire a specific target in a cluster of enemies by clicking an enemy frame in the enemy list when there are about eight enemies to select from, but to say that mouse targeting is "ALWAYS faster. Full stop." is just wrong.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 03-14-2020 at 09:54 PM.
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  10. #59
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    Sturm Churro
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    Clicking all of your abilities AND your targets with the mouse alone is the most optimal way to play.
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  11. #60
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Countless computer scientists and cognitive scientists will tell you you're wrong. Full stop. This is a fact, not an opinion.

    Fitts's Law states that the time and difficulty of rapidly acquiring and interacting with a target increase as the distance to the target increases and the size of the target decreases.

    It's much easier and faster to press a fixed-size, stationary key on your keyboard, provided you have mapped your keys appropriately so that, e.g., the Target Nearest Enemy keybind is something close to home position like [G]; and even if there are several enemies on the screen, one can tab cycle through them faster than they could click as long as you have your camera pointed the right way to exclude distant targets. It is actually unusual for mouse targeting to be faster than keyboard targeting, and combat is playable entirely without a mouse if you're a tank or DD.

    Mouse targeting may be faster if you're trying to acquire a specific target in a cluster of enemies by clicking an enemy frame in the enemy list when there are about eight enemies to select from, but to say that mouse targeting is "ALWAYS faster. Full stop." is just wrong.
    You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about, except in your last paragraph.

    Mouse clicking targets is the fastest and most efficient way of playing. Fact, not an opinion.
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