2480 Crafting?

[JamieRose]

And my ignore list continues to expand...

[Frizze]

If you choose to, you can get a buff of over 200 craftsmanship or control from food medicine and company action. So getting the stats to attempt these recipes doesnt require a full set of over-melded BiS gear. And i mean, its not like you couldnt have looked at the recipes from your book to see the stats required before you went gathering. Thats what i did. I had a partially melded set of dwarven cotton/swallowskin gear. On tuesday i looked and saw i was a bit short of the stat reqs for expert recipes, so i spent a little bit gathering some mats and whipped up enough of a set of facet gear(with guaranteed melds only) to hit the stat requirements. Then i spent some time in diadem. Took a few shots at the recipes(think i gathered enough for 6 attempts in my first short visit). I tried a few things, and by the end was very consistently getting to about 3500, but hitting the minimum for turn in required luck. Tried the non-expert level 80 recipe just to make sure i hadnt forgotten how to craft(maxed in 13 or so steps, so good enough). Took a break to clear my head. Then i did some research, talked to a few crafting friends and looked at some of the advice online. Went back a night later, and with some new ideas i was hitting about 4800 consistently, with good luck pushing it into max range(still a couple fails, but i was succeeding around 80% of the time).

And the new conditions are far from useless. One of them is the return of steady hands. One of them is a free step of waste not. One of them cuts any CP costs in half. Any crafter who thinks theyre up to the challenge of an "Expert" recipe should be able to find some uses for those.

[JamieRose]

If you choose to, you can get a buff of over 200 craftsmanship or control from food medicine and company action. So getting the stats to attempt these recipes doesnt require a full set of over-melded BiS gear. And i mean, its not like you couldnt have looked at the recipes from your book to see the stats required before you went gathering. Thats what i did. I had a partially melded set of dwarven cotton/swallowskin gear. On tuesday i looked and saw i was a bit short of the stat reqs for expert recipes, so i spent a little bit gathering some mats and whipped up enough of a set of facet gear(with guaranteed melds only) to hit the stat requirements. Then i spent some time in diadem. Took a few shots at the recipes(think i gathered enough for 6 attempts in my first short visit). I tried a few things, and by the end was very consistently getting to about 3500, but hitting the minimum for turn in required luck. Tried the non-expert level 80 recipe just to make sure i hadnt forgotten how to craft(maxed in 13 or so steps, so good enough). Took a break to clear my head. Then i did some research, talked to a few crafting friends and looked at some of the advice online. Went back a night later, and with some new ideas i was hitting about 4800 consistently, with good luck pushing it into max range(still a couple fails, but i was succeeding around 80% of the time).

And the new conditions are far from useless. One of them is the return of steady hands. One of them is a free step of waste not. One of them cuts any CP costs in half. Any crafter who thinks theyre up to the challenge of an "Expert" recipe should be able to find some uses for those.

I only call them useless because not a single one of them could get me over the 4500 target. I tried several approaches and 4300 was the best I could do. Feels like I wasted my time and my money.

[Hasrat]

Sounds like maybe you're not an expert crafter after all. It's good to know your limits.

[Liam_Harper]

Sounds like maybe you're not an expert crafter after all. It's good to know your limits.

Pretty much this.

Think of it like Savage or Ultimate crafting. You're just not at that level (which is fine). It doesn't make the content bad, though.

[Naoki34]

You know it would be easier for people like me if this kind of info was upfront. Even still 2480 seems a little ridiculous.

Just go overmeld and stop crying, newbie.
You just need last craft's gear and meld.

[Naoki34]

And my ignore list continues to expand...

Yes expand your blacklist, and don't improve yourself and complain SE for your incompetence.

You just need stuff and meld, and you can train for a good rotation.

[Jimmymagic]

you guys are all silly... cmon Lodestone....
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[tdb]

I get into the craft and find out that the target numbers are not only skewed to hell (9000+ progress with 4500 collectabilty minimum.) but also they've changed the bonuses around, most of them are useless and excellent doesn't seem to come up anymore.

This has been available since the patch was deployed on Tuesday. The bit about excellent not appearing and the new statuses and their effects was in the patch notes. You can easily verify the required progress and quality numbers from the crafting window and the NPC you deliver the items to without actually having the required stats to craft the item.

Also the stat requirement for expert recipes are exactly the same as Lv80 tri-star items, which have been available for more than three weeks. I really fail to see the surprising aspect here.

[Shadygrove]

Are you serious, Squeenix? What the hell is wrong with you!?

I've got 2115 crafting right now and I can't use any of this stuff I brought back from diadem for expert crafts.

How the hell do you expect anyone to get 2480? That's absurd!!!

I am at Craft 2554, Cont 2434, 541 CPs. Armor and accessories are max melded, tools have but two melds, non specialist.

Its really easy if a bit expensive.