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  1. #71
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    In his defense, its not his fault.
    Orlando / The Thunder God is still a mess either because some people still screw up the Circles that require 3 people on them, or the Red Circle Mechanic where you need to bring it to a separate area and make sure it doesn't touch another red circle.
    Still to this day people sometimes screw that up, and its not just new people doing it. So that raid is still a headache.
    Well there's actually a lot more than that,

    You see a lot of deaths at Mustadio too, sometimes when he does his sniping cutscene, it returns you back to your character in a screwy position which can disorient you causing you to position improperly with the circle in the correct position which will instantly kill you. Doesn't generally happen the second time as there's no cutscene (even if cool). And in the later stages of that they can end up filling almost all of the platform except one little square with AoE.

    Seraph, the part that gets everyone usually is that interlude scene where she summons all three previous bosses at once, so you have Typhoons, Clocks, Flame Line attack, and Seraph normal AoEs all going off at once. One that got me last night was the Towers, I was in the corner, only me and one other guy, he sliced his towers and both fell in my direction with no escape. Which are, of course, instakills. What are the chances he ignores the entire alliance and tries to kill you specifically?

    And you have to account for new players who don't know the mechanics yet, so in the darkness portion where you're running the maze, some don't understand the stop in place timer, and one guy nearly wiped us last night because he didn't know to move out of the light when he got the Flare triangle on him. Wiped out half the alliance on the spot.

    So it can get pretty brutal... fun and exciting... but brutal.
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  2. #72
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I'm bumping this thread to avoid make a separate one when the issue has been discussed long.

    I'm still hoping they do something to solve it.

    Now it's become the worst since the Ivalice raids completion will be required for the new relic quests, which are coming soon. I'm still missing 2 out of 3 and there's no way to make them pop. In roulette of course they'd never happen, but even if I queue for them directly they still don't. The worst thing is that if you queue long enough they might pop, but if just one person withdraws, the party returns to 0, since they probably come from roulette and they get moved to another raid? I tried to queue today for Ridorana as it's sunday, and at a good time too, after 50mins it finally popped but exactly that happened. I also don't think queueing all day would help at all, as the same thing would keep happening over again. Making a DF for it also could never work, since it's too much people needed. So those of us who never managed to complete those raids risk getting cut off the new relic completely.

    Please Squeenix, put some measures in place to stop alliance raids roulette being CT roulette, cheesers are ruining the game for everybody.
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  3. #73
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    Eldevern's Avatar
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Cerberus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I imagine there are people cheating but most of time, I see the bonus. Since raids are side quests and there are levelling potions, I'm not sure there so many cheaters.
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  4. #74
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I still haven't got Copied Factory since they tossed it in there. Shame.

    I got Dun Scaith quite a bit when it was available for moogle tomes. I already miss it.

    I haven't done any alliance raids in the past three days. I just can't take another LoTA/ST tower run right now. I am bored out of my freakin mind with this roulette. I'd rather queue into Copied Factory specifically for those tomes. If SE doesn't want to do anything about it, fine. The roulette is optional and there are plenty of other ways I'd rather deal with to get tomes and materia.
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  5. #75
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I still feel they need to change the alliance que to be like pvp, no matter how many ppl accept, it will start, it cant be that 23 are screwed bc one guy was afk or didnt wanna anymore... AND the highest level possible raid musst be accesable, no ilvl cheesing.
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  6. #76
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    Esmoire's Avatar
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    Mei Coincounter
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Two things I'd like to see:

    1) Give a bonus of tomestones and XP if you can satisfy certain ilevel brackets when you zone in, regardless of which raid you end up getting. It is such that as long as you meet the ilevel for the latest alliance raid, you'll get the best bonus possible. Ideally it is requirement to get whatever is the current endgame token. Thus, people who are doing the raid the first time won't notice since they can't really benefit from the new tomestones until they are caught up anyway.

    2) Maybe try to trim down some of the raids down to make them faster. The water tunnels in Rabanastre are boring beyond belief after you've done them a few times; make them part of the Ivalice quest or something and take them out of the raid. Copied Factory has people stand around while 2P hacks a miniboss and that's like... why. Same thing with the huge wait during Engels' transition. Can easily shave a few minutes out of this raid without touching the difficulty. Ideally raids escalate in difficulty, but IMO they should try to be about equal time, like dungeons.
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    Last edited by Esmoire; 03-09-2020 at 04:15 AM.

  7. #77
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    I'm bumping this thread to avoid make a separate one when the issue has been discussed long.

    I'm still hoping they do something to solve it.

    Now it's become the worst since the Ivalice raids completion will be required for the new relic quests, which are coming soon. I'm still missing 2 out of 3 and there's no way to make them pop. In roulette of course they'd never happen, but even if I queue for them directly they still don't. The worst thing is that if you queue long enough they might pop, but if just one person withdraws, the party returns to 0, since they probably come from roulette and they get moved to another raid? I tried to queue today for Ridorana as it's sunday, and at a good time too, after 50mins it finally popped but exactly that happened. I also don't think queueing all day would help at all, as the same thing would keep happening over again. Making a DF for it also could never work, since it's too much people needed. So those of us who never managed to complete those raids risk getting cut off the new relic completely.

    Please Squeenix, put some measures in place to stop alliance raids roulette being CT roulette, cheesers are ruining the game for everybody.
    Don't worry too much about the Ivalice Raids. The actual quest to start the relic has not been released yet. Once players are actually required to go into Ivalice to progress their relic, then you shouldn't have any trouble getting in there.

    While it does make me happy that incentive will be given to Ivalice, and it should also improve the roulette, I can't help but feel SE used their once per expansion carrot (the relic) on Ivalice instead of fresh content. We will just have to wait to see what else the grind entails.
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  8. #78
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    I've gotten a good mix of Mach, Ivalice, and Yorha.

    My secret: I already did Crystal Tower on my previous main and didn't bother to unlock it for my current character. Works just fine for my daily roulette. I was also able to unlock and clear the other three raids with no issue.
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  9. #79
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    I think it would be cool if the match-up algorithm took not just your role into account, but your average ilvl.

    People who take off their gear generally want to run the lower level raids. People who keep all their gear on want to run the harder stuff.

    So, have the matching algorithm split people into tiers based on their ilvl. If you qualify for the lowest level raids and don't qualify for anything higher, you get grouped up with nothing but people in the same boat. That way, people who actually bother to keep their gear equipped will be matched up with other people who do the same.

    And when queuing groups, preformed parties, etc, make it use the lowest denominator. The weakest member of the party sets the tier.
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  10. #80
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    Kavan Longfellow
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 90
    I definitely wish they'd do something to divide things up more.

    I am a solidly lower skilled player. I cannot do Ex trials 'in expac'; I have difficulty even with the harder ones from the previous expac. I have never set foot in a Savage, & probably never will.

    I absolutely have no business in the Ivalice raids. None. I cannot do Orbonne. I die multiple times, even as DPS, even with someone on voice chat calling things for me.

    I'm trying to level healers & tanks now. AR gives some decent XP - if I draw the easy ones that even I can do. If I draw Orbonne? I have to quit on the spot to avoid bringing the entire raid to a wipe. How does this system help anyone? I don't care about the 30 minute lock-out, but now there's a raid that's down a critical role & has to replace it with someone (hopefully) able to handle it.

    If they were divided into some sort of tier system, this entire mess could be avoided - I'd do the ARR & HW raids that I can manage, & avoid the SB ones that I can't. No one gets stuck looking for a replacement, or carrying my corpse through the entire run. It's a win for everyone.
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