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  1. #51
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    RyuSaarva's Avatar
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordDrakore View Post
    That is a very fair assumption and I will sum it up the best I can.

    I was mining and I started to see obvious signs that possibly maybe mining could be flawed in a way that 1 node with a 79% chance hits all 4 times where as in the next node I use abilities with a 94% chance hits 0 times.

    So I posted in the NN that I didn't believe the percentages actually meant much in gathering and it was weird that one node with 79% chances hits all 4 times where as another node with 94% chance hits nothing.

    After a mentor then started to insult me and make fun of me saying things to the effect of " Really man everyone learns percentages in grade school" and "grats! you just learned how percentages work!"

    Which I replied I didn't appreciate the insults and I was aware how these things work and maybe he should rethink being a mentor. I also said that I have never been spoken too like that before by a mentor and has this game gotten that bad? to which after that I was given a 30min ban for negative behavior.

    Edit: Sorry i forgot to add that other people in the chat were saying things like "Oh i feel a ban coming" or "Let me get the popcorn"
    that is not a insult, it's just a snarky reply, you get offended way too easily and I have seen this same scenario play out many times but nobody ever got butthurt by it.
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  2. #52
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    Lord Drakore
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    that is not a insult, it's just a snarky reply, you get offended way too easily and I have seen this same scenario play out many times but nobody ever got butthurt by it.
    And the 30 min mute given to me without warning by another mentor was justified why?
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  3. #53
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    Phil Logic
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    State of the game is BOT BOT BOT gathering all those ephemeral nodes, craft all the Neo gear and market undercut bot by 1 gil, make $$$$$$$$$$$
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    Like a BOSS


  4. #54
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    Most bot approved game on the market!!
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    Like a BOSS


  5. #55
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Gonna be real, I'd have to see the logs to asses the situation properly because there's always two sides to a story.
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  6. #56
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    Masurao Tsukino
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Gonna be real, I'd have to see the logs to asses the situation properly because there's always two sides to a story.
    Here ya go: https://gyazo.com/e52ee07e88d4aa55c6430b3dae785729
    Color coded for your convenience
    Red is one mentor, Blue is another, Green are various sprouts and returners.
    (3)
    ヤッタルチャン
    So we should all become YATTARUCHAN!*
    *Yattaruchan is someone with a can-do attitude

  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasuraoTsukino View Post
    Here ya go: https://gyazo.com/e52ee07e88d4aa55c6430b3dae785729
    Color coded for your convenience
    Red is one mentor, Blue is another, Green are various sprouts and returners.
    Typical. "Last warning" by someone disparaging lalas in another breath. I should go grab mentor status again, so I can go on a (pointless) power trip as well. That is so me. Mentorship, and the NN is a dump as usual I see. Only strengthens my opinion that it is worthless in every way.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

  8. #58
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    AncientCrystal's Avatar
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    Dawn Solaris
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I've never unlocked the NN but I can tell you from what I've heard the whole mentor/NN system is a complete failure. SE should just wipe the whole system and I don't think single person would care.
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  9. #59
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordDrakore View Post
    And the 30 min mute given to me without warning by another mentor was justified why?
    You werent excatly friendly, either - if you take the comment that basic percentage is something thats taught in primary school as offensive, why shouldnt someone else take offense by your comment "sad you are a mentor"? Why is it okay for you to tell them that they're a bad mentor, but not okay for them to comment that you're bad at math?

    Maybe this is my personal perception but the whole conversation can be read with you being someone who wants to stire up trouble - complaining about missing your nodes, then starting an argument with other people in said chat etc. I could see this being viewed as someone who just wants to argue and/or b*tch around - even if this wasnt your intention (just how it might not have been the intention of the mentor to directly attack or insult you with his comment).
    And in order to prevent the chat turning into a personal argument between the two of you, they removed you for a bit - unfair? Maybe. Probably. But each server can make up their own rules about whats okay in the Network and what isnt - and if your server doesnt want arguments, they can take action to prevent that. And if people viewed your comments as more problematic than the ones of the mentor, they can remove you - and not wanting to be rude: I can see reasons to remove either of you. You didnt come off as super friendly aswell as easly triggered - and if the mentors "humor" spoke to more people and fits the general atmosphere of Midgardsormrs NN better (maybe its a place with some light teasing?) then its you who gets removed.

    Just as a sidenote: You have no "right" to be in said network - its part of the game, but its not like you pay a special fee to enter it or anything.
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    Last edited by Vidu; 03-08-2020 at 01:46 AM.

  10. #60
    Player HeulGDarian's Avatar
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    Heul Darian
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Blue one was sarcastic
    red one was an ass
    You were sarcastic back

    conclusion youre all grounded

    btw just in case you missed the blue in the end did answer back
    also to go a bit further in case you still have the question. Its pure rng unless you have 100% then you have a chance to fail. Thats the fast explanation the large explanation is of the billion and billion of experiments done to measure the chance of fail to be 30%, you managed to hit a sequence of successes while on the 15% you managed to hit a sequence of fails . its hellah unlucky but its not unreasonable, also take it with a grain of salt but i think ive managed to fail with 100% chance =w=" on crafting back in stormblood so better pray to rng day and night :P.
    usually we sacrifice lalas for good rng
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