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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You don't see a difference between wanting to control only how your own character looks, and wanting to control how every character looks? Are you serious?

    And no at the core they're not the same. One side wants their intolerance to differing tastes to enable them to change how every character looks, while the others think that changing how other players look goes against the spirit of what it means to play in a mmorpg.

    And seeing as you have brought up mods before let me tell you this: WoW is the other big mmorpg out there, and far bigger than FFXIV. Blizzard allow mods but they explicitly forbid any that change how environments and characters look. Mods are allowed to only change how ui looks and acts. Likely because not only do Blizzard believe players having complete control over the presets and gear that make up how their character looks to be something they consider to be part of the aesthetic of their game, they also probably don't want to open the can of worms that is permitting players to change how the world looks to fit their personal vision.

    The vision of the game doesn't belong to the players, it belongs to the devs. Not even how our own characters look completely belong to us because we are merely given presets that we can choose from.
    My guess they limit visual mods in that game for legality reasons you know nude mods, terrian alteration to get adavantges in pvp or pve content etc . . . In WoW I did alter and even had sreen shots on the old forums of my character is a demon before the demon transformance was added to the dem. This is why I understand not making the game open to mods, as I much as I would love I get it, I do not agree with it, but I will lose sleep over it. Akin to this idea too. This is also another murky subject for me that I have a view many do not agree with, I do think because someone says something is wrong means I will follow it without any enforcement of said rules.

    Issue boils down you are projecting you own assumptions as to why someone would want to this change. We have no way of knowing what is the motive is behind someone wanting to this feature added or the use of the feature. For me personally what I see on my screen is my personal view, I have not changed what you see, nor am I asking the devs to alter the game world for everyone. That is the wonderful thing about options, their optional. All jokes aside if break both sides down to their base structure it comes down to a battle of no each side wanting control over their personal experience. How is that not the same? It only becomes different when one interjerts their own bias into it. I am guilty of the same, but when I try to look past my bias I do not see any difference between the core idea behind each side.

    In the end you are right, as many have said it is not our call it is up to SE, they can do whatever they want and if they do add it cool, if they don't (which they wont, I have mentioned that dozens of times) meh so be it.

    Like in this game, I want a body hair slider SE has not given one yet, so I use my "imagination" so to speak to alter my game to enhance my personal experience within the game. Or how I wish SE would add a 4k texture pack, but that has not happened so I have to had to use my "imagination" to see the world clearer. People are not as safe as they wishor make it out to seem, and in the end the comes down to numbers. For me if someone has a problem with many people doing something, they should have a problem a single person doing it. If one feels that the aspect of people potentially seeing them differently is an issue, then they should take action against the current state of the game and voice with their wallet or put the same amount of energy beacause the reality is people already alter the world around them in FFXIV, it just not as readliy available. Out of sight out of mind, I wish that was not the case, but hey that is life.

    I mentioned above this is why I strongly think it could reduce hate since as they saying goes out of sight out of mind. If someone does not have to see an aspect they do not enjoy then that aspect may not even register in their mind and maybe just maybe they will run into someone and have an enjoyable experience with someone they probably would not even give the time of day. Especially if they make the sytem an all of nothing toggle.

    This is why I do not like to add to much IRL examples because it often takes away from the core. In the end the only objective marker we have to go off of would a change like this impact gameplay in any negative way? Truthfully I do not think so, though if start to ask would it impact people on a personal level that is yes. Though if we ask why, in the grand scheme most people would not even know that people see them differently so the negative impact on the personal level is subjective in nature, while still important that is something we should consider.
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    Last edited by Awha; 03-05-2020 at 05:14 AM.