Ocean fishing is horribly designed

[ApolloGenX]

I get that max level folks might not like it- and I certainly support the changes proposed, but I am loving this content. I would never have touched FSH without it and now I am even considering trying to level my other trade skills. Gathering is incredibly time consuming and without it, leveling crafts is cost prohibitive for many people. I wish they had content like this for botany and mining as well. It would really make crafting more accessible to me. Frankly, gathering is so taken over by bots, making content like this to engage people in leveling gathering is incredibly helpful for sustaining your crafting growth and not having to shell out to bots.

[Vahlnir]

I get that max level folks might not like it- and I certainly support the changes proposed, but I am loving this content. I would never have touched FSH without it and now I am even considering trying to level my other trade skills. Gathering is incredibly time consuming and without it, leveling crafts is cost prohibitive for many people. I wish they had content like this for botany and mining as well. It would really make crafting more accessible to me. Frankly, gathering is so taken over by bots, making content like to engage people in leveling gathering is incredibly helpful for sustaining your crafting growth and not having to shell out to bots.

They are still pretty easy to level if you take advantage of GC turn ins and leves, though in my opinion Stormblood content is where leves start to really matter. They aren't useless up to that point but I feel that you get more for your time starting then.

As to the topic though I do like the content, but I do think it needs a fair amount of work. A lot of the suggestions I've seen in this thread and elsewhere would be a good start.

[RyuDragnier]

After having seen the requirements for the titles, those really should have been just your own count, and over the course of ALL runs in the ocean fishing. That way you have something to work for in the long run, and you don't have to jump through unnecessary hoops if you want the titles. Because I'm sorry, 200 catches in a single instance across your entire party? That's absolute insanity.

[Barraind]

The only part of it I dislike is the heavy rng on top of rng. Every run with 1 spectral currant (which has been most of mine) is a wasted trip. You arent finishing any achievement, and theres no worthwhile cumulative achievement, so any time it happens, you just lost 25+ minutes of time.

[Espritduo]

So I'm starting to get really depressed about these 5-star blue fish. How are people catching them? I've been doing ocean fishing NON-STOP, every waking moment of the day, getting very close to 500k achievement, and have yet to get a single bite on any of them. Right spot, right time, right bait, intuition buff up, getting two casts in each buff, even using surface slap after first cast to increase chances of 5-star biting. Nothing. Gotten probably over a hundred casts during intuitions with everything right and I can't even get a single bite, yet I see people catching these things left and right now that the req's are known? What is going on, cuz I'm about to give up here, and I've never given up on anything fishing related. This is really bad content, man.

[Hyperia]

I keep trying and keep failing miserably on ocean fishing.. my best personal run had me at 7.3k and everybody else on the boat was between 13k and 17k, I was the only person below 13k on a triple spectral voyage.

Even the level 37 who was leveling on the boat ended up with 14k so I have no idea what I am doing wrong. I use the bait that people say to use and double hook during spectrals only but I still ended up getting a horrible score.
My most recent run had me at 1200 and the rest of the people were at 7k+, it has me so frustrated that I have logged off for the rest of the night on both occasions.

I am soooo in favor of going to a cumulative system rather than this mess of a system. Its making me hate fishing and to a degree, hurting my desire to play the game. I don't mind RNG but this is hurtful and making me feel awful.

[SuperZay]

After having seen the requirements for the titles, those really should have been just your own count, and over the course of ALL runs in the ocean fishing. That way you have something to work for in the long run, and you don't have to jump through unnecessary hoops if you want the titles. Because I'm sorry, 200 catches in a single instance across your entire party? That's absolute insanity.

I have all 4 party titles and I hope they'll give us more of similar challenges in the future. It was really fun and satisfying gettting these titles in the end after numerious attempts and hours of frustration, blamig RNG and weather. These titles should belong only to those who went through all this effort to get them and I can see them remaining rare and respectable.

[Doozer]

I know fishing is about RNG, so I get why people defend the way it is, but when the entire boat gets either really good RNG or really bad RNG, that's far too broad to be fair. I always think I'm doing crap but I'm always in the top 3-5 in score at the end. I do the best that I possibly can and every time I get screwed. How is that fair? People should be rewarded for their skill, not their ability to play all day every day despite failing every time. No other content is like that. The rest rewards you for being good and learning what you're doing. I could fall asleep while ocean fishing and do just the same as I have been, it seems.

[LadyBaelcrest]

These titles should belong only to those who went through all this effort to get them and I can see them remaining rare and respectable.

So, what would ya say if I found someone that literally got everything on their first go? Did they earn it? Or were they just blessed by RNGeebus? This is just an RNG fest... There's not that much skill involved in this minigame.

[Vahlnir]

So, what would ya say if I found someone that literally got everything on their first go? Did they earn it? Or were they just blessed by RNGeebus? This is just an RNG fest... There's not that much skill involved in this minigame.

A fair amount of people must be getting lucky too. I've seen more than a few flying around on my server. They might be rare-ish now since the content is new, but I doubt they will be rare at all a month from now. In the few attempts I've made, there has been at least 1, 2 or even 3 people meeting the requirements. I just haven't been one of them, though I was close once. 9785. I think what this piece of content has going for it is the fact that people can level FSH from doing it pretty fast. That will keep it relevant for awhile. That and the easy yellow scrips.