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  1. #11
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    TheForce's Avatar
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    Character
    The Protector
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    Aegis
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I meld straight Tenacity and Determination for every Tank. There's no objectively "right way" to meld like others falsely believe, if there was, then the devs wouldn't have given us all the different choices they did; it all depends on your personal preference and values. The stat difference that melded materia makes is pretty minor as well, it's just meant to be seen a very slight boost/way to add personal flavor to your build.
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  2. #12
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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Character
    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    Crit > DET sprinkled with some SKS.

    You shouldnt really go for DH even if on paper it does look nice you have absolutely no control over which hits of your are going to proc the DH. Crit is better as a primary stat for everyone so you wont have so much DET to get significant amount out from it, you could easily replace it with DET and notice nothing.
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  3. #13
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    Character
    Ven Diclonius
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Ultimately? No.

    You CAN make a set work for both DRK and GNB, they use the same stats and need the same skill speed. For PLD and WAR though? Not really, not 100% optimally anyway.

    You can do what i do and meld the GNB/DRK weapons with skill speed, to the point where you have a 2.38 GCD timer, and then Crit/DH everywhere else. I believe at level 80, 2.38 is 1522 skill speed minimum, try and keep above that number on DRK/GNB/WAR but as close to it so you're not wasting off-stats on skill speed you dont need. It wont be perfect for PLD or WAR with the DH, but it'll be serviceable and atleast then you'll have enough skill speed for the tanks that need it.

    That all being said - You may need those tanks to be going a little faster depending on your ping, 2.37 or 2.36, whichever you can achieve the most consistent results with your ping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    DH + Crit is what GNB, DRK and PLD want (Until a bit later in the expansion then Crit will overtake DH)

    Crit + Det is what WAR wants.

    DRK and WAR want a little smidge of SkS just to get that 5th attack during an IR/Del window.

    You could probably get away with doing Crit + Det on all 4 tanks, it won't be BiS for all of them, but it won't be bad for any of them.
    While technically not false...You're forgetting that GNB needs sks too for the standard opener. If you dont have enough, you litterally miss a burst strike during no mercy

    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    You're overestimating the importance of stats in this game. The difference between BiS melds and sub-optimal melds is miniscule, less than 1% dps in most cases. Even your War could go into Savage with DH melds and do well.

    Crit + Det on all 4 is the best suggestion, with enough SkS to be comfy on the War for IR.
    Skill speed is essential for 3/4 of the tanks, the only one that doesnt need it anywhere is PLD.
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    Last edited by VenKitsune; 03-04-2020 at 03:11 PM.

  4. #14
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    Lucy_Pyre's Avatar
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    Lucy Pyre
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheForce View Post
    I meld straight Tenacity and Determination for every Tank. There's no objectively "right way" to meld like others falsely believe, if there was, then the devs wouldn't have given us all the different choices they did; it all depends on your personal preference and values. The stat difference that melded materia makes is pretty minor as well, it's just meant to be seen a very slight boost/way to add personal flavor to your build.
    Uh, no, there absolutely is an objectively correct way to meld and build every tank just as there is every job. Unfortunately for you, tenacity is about as far from that as is possible. That is not to say that tenacity is useless, because for prog the stat is valuable as there may end up being situations where you barely survive a hit, which was caused by tenacity. Other than that, however, tenacity is something you shouldn't be using. If you like tenacity then sure, feel free to use it. However, you cannot claim that your use of it is "good" because, frankly, it's not.
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  5. #15
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    Character
    Boreas Redgrave
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 69
    No, you cannot make a best in slot set for all tanks.

    You can make an all tank set that is still quite good and the difference between the best in slot set is much less than people think. All you have to do is prioritize determination.
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  6. #16
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    BarretOblivion's Avatar
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    Character
    Tamamo Cat
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Beddict View Post
    Looking through, they do actually have an answer which is neat. Under the #tank_resources section, there are two omni-sets, one at a 2.38 GCD and one at a 2.42 GCD.

    The 2.38 GCD build has two DH melds (Earrings and Bracelet) which PLD, DRK, and GNB can keep while they recommend WAR swaps those out. The 2.42 GCD build has five DH melds (two Weapon, Head, Earrings, Necklace) which PLD, DRK, and GNB can keep while they once again recommend swapping those out for WAR. Actual BiS is obviously going to differ for each Job, but the omni-sets will work well enough even if they are weaker.
    This has been kinda debunked to be the universal 2.42 GCD build being the best. Both DRK and GNB gain more by losing a GCD during their bursts with the slower SKS.
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