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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    >Open world
    You tried, kek
    Also, most mounts are ugly af or just look dumb. Like, flying bed and variety of chairs, sometimes it feels like you're too big for a mount. Still waiting for flying toilet that does fart sounds while in air, that would be great idea on par with bed.
    And there no armory to check them all, no mount drops from dungeons, literally 7 recollors of the same mount. As someone told, WoW did it better, you should check it out, it even have mount showoffs.
    And yeah, people should understand that 14 love silly stuff and don't care about any immersion
    If you like WoW so much, I hear its still in service and guess what, you can go play it! I don't think I've ever seen you post a positive thing about XIV, so why are you here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    If you like WoW so much, I hear its still in service and guess what, you can go play it! I don't think I've ever seen you post a positive thing about XIV, so why are you here?
    Silly child, I hear "go play wow" for years from people like you on this forums, nothing new. Unlike you, I can critisize and play both games, nothing is perfect. And yes, I come here to critisize, I dont see any reason in disscussion about positive stuff, there is no point in circlejerking. We would still playing 1.0 if people didnt talked about the problems.
    WoW has absolutely no recolored or silly mounts
    None whatsoever. Nope. Definitely not.
    Lmao
    I mean I love collecting mounts in WoW way more than here, but come on dude :P Blizz has been reusing assets and adding silly joke crap since before FFXIV existed
    Do you REALLY want to count how many unique mount models and armor on it they have and what we have per expansion? I understand WOW BAD FFXIV GOOD meme, but come on people, use common logic.
    (also fyi, there is a dungeon mount)
    Same here, do you really want to compare? Using numbers of course, not is "personal opinion" if its good or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    Do you REALLY want to count how many unique mount models and armor on it they have and what we have per expansion? I understand WOW BAD FFXIV GOOD meme, but come on people, use common logic.
    Same here, do you really want to compare? Using numbers of course, not is "personal opinion" if its good or not.
    Why compare number of mount in a thread that questions their point in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Why compare number of mount in a thread that questions their point in the first place?
    Well, we can calculate how many WoW have them as loot in open world by quests or achievements. Another reason to use mounts you already have in zones, if you can farm new ones in process.
    Let's see what we get, if you're not a crafter. Time-gated hunt trains, 10 minutes quest chain for "tribes" and uselsess fate grind if you're not leveling alt class, not much. That was the point of this person question, there is nothing to grind, obtain something of value, like more mounts or rare item/armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    Well, we can calculate how many WoW have them as loot in open world by quests or achievements. Another reason to use mounts you already have in zones, if you can farm new ones in process.
    Let's see what we get, if you're not a crafter. Time-gated hunt trains, 10 minutes quest chain for "tribes" and uselsess fate grind if you're not leveling alt class, not much. That was the point of this person question, there is nothing to grind, obtain something of value, like more mounts or rare item/armor.
    Eh, I don't find any mount in either game to be something of value. But if we're talking value, other than mounts looking pretty, which both games have, the other purpose for mount is as a transportation utility. Having to grind less for mount is a bonus for FFXIV in that department, especially when you factor in flight unlock.

    I want to go on the open world on my mount, especially flying, not grind in the open world to be able to ride/fly my mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    Do you REALLY want to count how many unique mount models and armor on it they have and what we have per expansion? I understand WOW BAD FFXIV GOOD meme, but come on people, use common logic.
    Who said anything about counting? Your complaints were that they have "literally 7 recolors of the same mount" and that FF apparently "loves silly stuff and doesn't care about immersion" because they have mounts that are, in your opinion, ugly and dumb af lmao

    I love WoW and have played it for 15 years (read, still do), but come on my dude. You gonna complain about recolors and silliness compared to a game that makes a point to have a "shove your hands in poop" quest nearly every expac and has like 15 versions of the same 15 year old dragon model as mounts too? Nobody cares about the mount numbers here man, most certainly not me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Who said anything about counting? Your complaints were that they have "literally 7 recolors of the same mount" and that FF apparently "loves silly stuff and doesn't care about immersion" because they have mounts that are, in your opinion, ugly and dumb af lmao

    I love WoW and have played it for 15 years (read, still do), but come on my dude. You gonna complain about recolors and silliness compared to a game that makes a point to have a "shove your hands in poop" quest nearly every expac and has like 15 versions of the same 15 year old dragon model as mounts too? Nobody cares about the numbers here man, most certainly not me
    With numbers comes variety, when you have 20 unique models that you can choose from and 20 recollors, that still less variety than 100 unique models and 200 recollors. And I'm not even talking about that this could be an actual content to farm in game.
    But hey, this is meaningless if "wish to see improvements" is complaining and numbers in MMORPG means nothing.
    For real though, about immersion. It was dead long time ago, when it became just theme park for FF fans. Bikini warrior flies on her bed to save the day, by killing her group spamming holy, uwu. So beds and chairs just looking lazy, when you dont have much mounts in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    With numbers comes variety, when you have 20 unique models that you can choose from and 20 recollors, that still less variety than 100 unique models and 200 recollors. And I'm not even talking about that this could be an actual content to farm in game.
    But hey, this is meaningless if "wish to see improvements" is complaining and numbers in MMORPG means nothing.
    For real though, about immersion. It was dead long time ago, when it became just theme park for FF fans. Bikini warrior flies on her bed to save the day, by killing her group spamming holy, uwu. So beds and chairs just looking lazy, when you dont have much mounts in the first place.
    Oh, I'm all for improvements and variety. I don't even disagree that WoW has more to do out in the world, even if it has the exact same "problem" as FF in that the actual volume of activities depends largely on what you personally find fun to do. My one and only point was that it's kinda silly to complain about FF Mounts being reused and silly when WoW also has several mounts that are reused and/or silly. I personally think WoW does several things better than FF (and several other things worse), but I personally wouldn't raise up a lack of silliness or immersion as reasons WoW did anything better. WoW has plenty of silliness and immersion-breaking nonsense.

    Honestly I am kind of curious how the numbers actually would stack up, if you actually took the time to total all recolors in both games and compare actual unique model counts. I'm sure WoW would still be higher, but right now it's got a little less than twice as many mounts, and then you've got to consider it's nearly twice as old as a game... eh. Interesting to think about, but not something I'm personally all that worried about. I have plenty of mounts that I love in FF, and I use them quite often myself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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