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    New Qitari quest

    And now we kinda choose if the Qitari were responsible for the Namazu to die or not.

    I guess I also understood why it annoys me so much. Every choice we do decreases the chances to get more information about that time and about those people in the story. Because each information would have to be written with our choices in mind since we are the one that discovered the past. If they had made one at the beginning and the rest will happen according to that they might still write around it. But now people can choose it with each single one. They can be 100% positive and thus a whole beast tribe survives or they can be completely negative and the story of the Qitari is kinda bitter. Or they can even choose wildly between that. I think its kinda a big deal if one tribe died because of the actions of the Qitari or not. That is not easily written different.

    It also makes it harder to talk about the lore because there is no 100% truth to it. Everyone has their own outcome and everyone is right in theirs but also wrong because others got other "truths".

    Honestly I wished they would not have done it. It does not make the story better for me.


    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Isn't that the case with most history? - Science too. People form theories but then later researches change. Who is to say that wouldn't be the case with future Generations? They're a pretty short lived species so I can't exactly be upset about this quest line.
    Because as far as they (and we know) its the only left source of information about their past. With dinosaurs you might be able to find more hidden around the world (and yet that is even not guaranteed because a lot is destroyed). Here there is only that one continent left and seemingly the woods are the place where they lived. There is probably nearly a 0% chance to collect more that are also showing exactly that situation.

    Maybe they should have let us see the stones and then we would have a convinient echo vision and see the past which is the reason why the serpent want us to decide..because we have the tool to look at the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    New Qitari quest

    Because as far as they (and we know) its the only left source of information about their past. With dinosaurs you might be able to find more hidden around the world (and yet that is even not guaranteed because a lot is destroyed). Here there is only that one continent left and seemingly the woods are the place where they lived. There is probably nearly a 0% chance to collect more that are also showing exactly that situation.

    Maybe they should have let us see the stones and then we would have a convinient echo vision and see the past which is the reason why the serpent want us to decide..because we have the tool to look at the past.
    That's the key here "as far as we know" I understand from a lore point this may be annoying, but history is almost always told by the winners. That history changes as later generations come back and research it, and can change again.

    What I'm saying is that the beast tribe isn't just about "accurate history" it could be later - who knows. I've already past the newest part you just did (since beast tribe resets are at a later time and can technically pick up the quests and hold 3 but anyways). The whole part of the MSQ was also giving some kind of insight about history as well specially with the Ronkan scene.

    The only difference is we happen to be witness to it and to a degree we "change it" because of our choices. This history would have been written anyway without our agency.

    With Dinosaurs you mentioning about 1 area and them being the only place to find it STILL applies here. We may never have all the information of various species that have come and gone. That's just how life is.

    I stopped viewing it as a point in being extremely accurate as it's just coming across that the real lesson as how history is just told. I mean even with the NPCs dialog - we take it as fact because they spoke it (in EVERY scenario - not just this beast tribe). From that standpoint it's actually gotten me to appreciate and enjoy the beast tribe a bit more seeing it from that aspect.

    ..and that's why the dialogue when we see
    Tiuna's tomb
    is truly special.
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