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  1. #21
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Why don't you want piety?
    Because it does nothing if you aren't raiding Savage progression. Literally nothing. 0 dps. 0 increased healing. Why would I want that?

    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Or make Piety a more valuable stat for healer instead.
    Just like Tenacity increase by a very small amount : healing received/damage done/reduce damage taken
    I'd be up for that.

    Tenacity isn't useless. It's not a great stat, but the damage increase is fine.
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    They should just give all healer jobs sufficient MP management tools and rework piety to buff healing somehow. We already have direct hit for damage and tenacity for tanking, but nothing specifically for heals.
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    Ea Sin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyti View Post
    Also related put less piety on crafted gear, 2k4 piety is depressing, at this point we can almost cut lucid out from our skills.
    I actually raided all the way to E8S with lucid off my hotbar before I realized hitting my keybind wasn't doing anything. On SCH, not even WHM. So yeah, piety on every piece of gear is getting old.

    PS: btw, I still didn't need it on e8s
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  4. #24
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    Elrica Lavandula
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    They should just give all healer jobs sufficient MP management tools and rework piety to buff healing somehow. We already have direct hit for damage and tenacity for tanking, but nothing specifically for heals.
    It would still be the least desired stat by far if they made it so that piety buffed healing but not dps, and no one but people who don't know what they do would meld it. Outside of progression maybe. Tenacity also doesn't just buff defense. They would absolutely have to make piety also buff dps for it not to be totally useless, unless it were strong enough to buff healing so much that you would have to cast less healing spells in favor of dps, and they would never make it that strong.
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    Last edited by Limonia; 02-24-2020 at 03:23 AM.

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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Stop putting piety on the left side all together.
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    I think they really hate us, to do such a thing. We basically have one stat less, since having Piety is like having nothing at all.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    I look at the SMN crafted weapon: Crit / Det

    I look at the SCH Crafted Weapon: Piety / Det

    /cry
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    I think they really hate us, to do such a thing. We basically have one stat less, since having Piety is like having nothing at all.
    It's frustrating, it's like they're sending us a message of "you guys need to be less dps orientated and focus on healing, we're forcing the healer stat on you" followed by "oh, we still refuse to give you anything to heal".

    Forcing Piety on us in a game where heal requirements are generally very low and we all have Lucid, just confirms yet again the devs don't understand how healers work.
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  9. #29
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Funny thing is, there are 8 pieces between both tomes and the savage gear that give crit/det. If a healer went with the least amount of piety possible with those pieces, they'd have less than 900 piety. So they put piety on all the crafted gear, but put basically none on the tome/raid gear. I suppose that's why every single healer weapon this patch had piety.
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  10. #30
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    I'd like to throw in spell speed as well because it does nothing for regens no matter what that tool tip says. So that would leave crit and det.

    Edit: I don't know how important casting faster means to everyone else, but as you need a ton of SpS to bring the GCD down, I just don't bother with it for that too.
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    Last edited by Rasikko; 02-25-2020 at 03:14 PM.

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