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  1. #1401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Honey, modding is against the ToS and leads to bans. Lets not go down that rabbit hole, shall we?
    Ofc people can mod their clients and I am sure Ifalna is half naked on some of them. That can't be helped.
    To be fair you can only get banned if the person does something to bring attention to themselves, otherwise SE really does not care. Which is why personally this whole thing confuses me outside of extremely rare situtions people would not have any idea someone has the feature on or off, so wouldn't it be like modding just more available.
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  2. #1402
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    To be fair you can only get banned if the person does something to bring attention to themselves, otherwise SE really does not care. Which is why personally this whole thing confuses me outside of extremely rare situtions people would not have any idea someone has the feature on or off, so wouldn't it be like modding just more available.
    Right now, only a handful of people mod. There is a certain deterrent and you need to know where to find it and how to mod the files.
    With such an option the amount of people using it would be orders of magnitude higher.

    I still find the request nonsensical. I played MMOs before transmog/glamor was a thing and it was lame. Most of the time you ran around like a clown because stats > all.
    Should SE have had some restrictions on the "leisure" and "humorous" gear from the start? Yes, I think so.

    But to make such a fuss about it 6 years AFTER the fact is ... illogical.
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  3. #1403
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    In the end it is just a discussion and for the most part people are being civil, however implausible the suggestion is if people are enaging with one another in a civil matter why does that bother you so much? As you said this idea probably will never happen so a discussion on a theoretical idea should really have no impact on you. Granted tone can be missed via text, just seems that you are irritated by this discussion for no real reason.
    It's just the way people "argue" these days: "I don't like this so I make the claim that this topic is pointless and not worth the time to discuss".
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    I'm just glad that the posters against the idea do an excellent job at keeping the thread at the top of the page and ensure that more people see it and leave a like on the original post.

    On that note, as of the time of this post there's 101 likes!
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  5. #1405
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    *Sits in a corner munching popcorn*
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    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

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  6. #1406
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Right now, only a handful of people mod. There is a certain deterrent and you need to know where to find it and how to mod the files.
    With such an option the amount of people using it would be orders of magnitude higher.

    I still find the request nonsensical. I played MMOs before transmog/glamor was a thing and it was lame. Most of the time you ran around like a clown because stats > all.
    Should SE have had some restrictions on the "leisure" and "humorous" gear from the start? Yes, I think so.

    But to make such a fuss about it 6 years AFTER the fact is ... illogical.
    It is a nonsensical and implausible request that will never happen, and I honestly do not like using the word never, but in this case I do think it is safe to say. Though that is reason why I perosnally find the discussion interesting. Sadly, the modding community in this game is on the smaller side, and yes if such a feature was relased more people would use it. For me personally I do not see how the amount of people using a feature alters this situation.

    I have no data but I just find it hard to think that if such a feature was implemented people would alter their behavior from how they did before regarding glamour and interactions. Do you think the community at large would shift to the assumption that vast majoirty use the feature? Cause personally that is really the only way I could see such a feature having a direct impact on people.

    For the record my view is bias since I do not really care about glamour and I dress my character in things others would call ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    It's just the way people "argue" these days: "I don't like this so I make the claim that this topic is pointless and not worth the time to discuss".
    I understand, that makes sense. Though for others it might be as pointless, for me personally the topic is interesting, granted at this point in many other forums the moderators properly would tell those currently engaged to take it to private messages. Sadly we do not have that feature here.
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    Last edited by Awha; 02-25-2020 at 03:53 AM.

  7. #1407
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm just glad that the posters against the idea do an excellent job at keeping the thread at the top of the page and ensure that more people see it and leave a like on the original post.

    On that note, as of the time of this post there's 101 likes!
    The number of likes hardly matters since it can't be quantified or opposed directly with dislikes.
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  8. #1408
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post

    I understand, that makes sense. Though for others it might be as pointless, for me personally the topic is interesting, granted at this point in many other forums the moderators properly would tell those currently engaged to take it to private messages. Sadly we do not have that feature here.
    O.o? But why? If anyone doesn't enjoy this particular conversation they can not view the thread or not click on it.
    Or hey.. if one poster in particular bothers anyone you can remove their posts from view with the "ignore" function.... or would that be removing their freedom of expression?


    .. OK that was a little uncivil.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  9. #1409
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    No one makes better glams than me. You dare turn off my gold Minstrel's shades? I kill you. You dare turn off my Alexandrian or Midan tank sets? I kill you. You dare turn off my pvp gear? I KEEL U.
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  10. #1410
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius2625 View Post
    No one makes better glams than me. You dare turn off my gold Minstrel's shades? I kill you. You dare turn off my Alexandrian or Midan tank sets? I kill you. You dare turn off my pvp gear? I KEEL U.
    Getting real Bon Qui Qui up in here!

    (If no one gets the reference I'll just see myself out. But YouTube her.)
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