Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Silica-chan]

People sure get "funny" because of the new shark mount.
I just did my 3rd or 4th fishing trip on the boat today and some people were yelling at me for not using the right bait (I'm just using the one you get at your first trip) with one threatening me that he'd report me for griefing if I don't switch. (I lol'd and just continued my casul fishing)
Never had that much fun while fishing

[Ranaku]

Had a "nice" fight against the mistdragon. Me as summoner and the tank explaining to me that titan egi is crap. In fact the titan egi (which can't tank anymore) isn't that bad if you have a newbie healer (which we had). Used my titan egi ofc, because i knew something will go wrong. The tank eats every aoe he can catch and tanks the floor, the rest of the group also died except from me and my wonderful titan egi. I let the egi shield me and killed the boss with the lb.

Ofc the tank was still nasty and told me the egi is crap, in my eyes the titan egi is the true hero among all egis.

[Avidria]

Blame that on the healers who actually don't raise at all. Yeah you're waiting for swiftcast, this is fine - but the others are anxious over whether you're gonna bother or not. I sometimes wanna say that swiftcast is not on a 5 minute CD to some of those 'no raise' healers.

Yeah I've had more than one roulette where we had a healer who just sat casting stone/glare/whatever while people's health was dropping and not throwing out any heals (or maybe occasionally bothering to cast one or two), and then just never ressing people when they finally die because of it. Just keep casting stone while someone's health drops to zero, and then after they're dead.

I'm not gonna yell at anybody for it, but I'm also definitely gonna be giving my comm to somebody else

[Silverquick]

Had a "nice" fight against the mistdragon. Me as summoner and the tank explaining to me that titan egi is crap. In fact the titan egi (which can't tank anymore) isn't that bad if you have a newbie healer (which we had). Used my titan egi ofc, because i knew something will go wrong. The tank eats every aoe he can catch and tanks the floor, the rest of the group also died except from me and my wonderful titan egi. I let the egi shield me and killed the boss with the lb.

Ofc the tank was still nasty and told me the egi is crap, in my eyes the titan egi is the true hero among all egis.

Yeah they're kinda bone headed when it comes to Titan Egi these days.

Titan Egi after the changes in Stormblood is no longer a Tank... its a damage shield Pet. It can't provoke anymore. And I do actually recommend any Summoner that is new to an instance or raid to use that pet even over Ifrit.

Because you'll be doing a lot more damage with Titan Egi and Stoneskinning yourself than you will Face Planted with Ifrit and spirit bonding with the floor. Later when you learn the mechanics THEN you can go Ifrit and push your DPS to the limit, but until then... learn it first and stay alive long enough to DO damage rather than spirit bond with the floor

And its becoming a dirty little secret with a lot of Summoners these days... when you've got a healer that isn't healing or a lot of bodies dropping in a raid... out comes Titan Egi. Summoners can actually hard cast Ressurection and not be interrupted if they've got Titan Egi out and are stoneskinned.

I was in a Hades trial once with another Summoner and both Healers were new, and they got wrecked repeatedly. After a while... I watch the other SMN whip out Titan... and I went... hmmm good idea. Eventually both Healers got their feet back under them but it completely took them off guard the how intense it got right off the bat.

So if you see a Summoner pull out Titan its usually for one of those 3 reasons, healing isn't so good or they have to Hard Cast raise a lot... or they are new to that instance and just learning it.

[van_arn]

Yeah they're kinda bone headed when it comes to Titan Egi these days.

Titan Egi after the changes in Stormblood is no longer a Tank... its a damage shield Pet. It can't provoke anymore. And I do actually recommend any Summoner that is new to an instance or raid to use that pet even over Ifrit.

Because you'll be doing a lot more damage with Titan Egi and Stoneskinning yourself than you will Face Planted with Ifrit and spirit bonding with the floor. Later when you learn the mechanics THEN you can go Ifrit and push your DPS to the limit, but until then... learn it first and stay alive long enough to DO damage rather than spirit bond with the floor

And its becoming a dirty little secret with a lot of Summoners these days... when you've got a healer that isn't healing or a lot of bodies dropping in a raid... out comes Titan Egi. Summoners can actually hard cast Ressurection and not be interrupted if they've got Titan Egi out and are stoneskinned.

I was in a Hades trial once with another Summoner and both Healers were new, and they got wrecked repeatedly. After a while... I watch the other SMN whip out Titan... and I went... hmmm good idea. Eventually both Healers got their feet back under them but it completely took them off guard the how intense it got right off the bat.

So if you see a Summoner pull out Titan its usually for one of those 3 reasons, healing isn't so good or they have to Hard Cast raise a lot... or they are new to that instance and just learning it.

If you're a healer and you see a paladin cast clemency, either you or the Paladin is bad.

If you're a healer and you see a summoner pull out Titan, either you or the Summoner is bad.

If you're a healer and your paladin casts clemency and your summoner pulls out Titan, consider never healing again.

[Dreamsoap]

I think I just had what was the single worst clear for any new raid content, ever lmfao. It wasn't anyone's fault on any part, just everyone being new to mechanics in E7. Post ad phase everyone died except for me (AST) and my partner who was MT. The LB 3 gauge was juuuuuuust a hair shy of being full, so we waited out through a tank buster for him to fill the gauge, I LB'd, everyone got up and I'm like "hell yea we're back baby!!"

HAHAHAHA. The rest of the way was like passing the hot potato on people dying one after the other (including myself) and passing rezzes. The coloured buff + birds portal nonsense had everyone playing Dragoon, esp when I'd get a callout for what I think I found out later wasn't relevant to everyone. Still yet to hear an explanation for the portals that actually computes. :C

(But... it was actually fun.)

[Roido_Avingu]

The coloured buff + birds portal nonsense had everyone playing Dragoon, esp when I'd get a callout for what I think I found out later wasn't relevant to everyone. Still yet to hear an explanation for the portals that actually computes. :C

For the phase after the adds, when you first get either the Astral or Umbral status, you have to position yourself so that you're not only getting hit by the opposite bird colour, but also get hit by the opposite colour of that buff as the birds come flying out of the portal they flew into previously.

Ex.: You get Astral status, stand in front of Umbral birds, while aligning yourself with the coloured portal the Astral birds are going to fly out after flying into the portals in the back, then move in front of Umbral birds again. And vice versa if you get Umbral status.

[DubiousDisk]

Yeah they're kinda bone headed when it comes to Titan Egi these days.

Titan Egi after the changes in Stormblood is no longer a Tank... its a damage shield Pet. It can't provoke anymore. And I do actually recommend any Summoner that is new to an instance or raid to use that pet even over Ifrit.

Because you'll be doing a lot more damage with Titan Egi and Stoneskinning yourself than you will Face Planted with Ifrit and spirit bonding with the floor. Later when you learn the mechanics THEN you can go Ifrit and push your DPS to the limit, but until then... learn it first and stay alive long enough to DO damage rather than spirit bond with the floor

And its becoming a dirty little secret with a lot of Summoners these days... when you've got a healer that isn't healing or a lot of bodies dropping in a raid... out comes Titan Egi. Summoners can actually hard cast Ressurection and not be interrupted if they've got Titan Egi out and are stoneskinned.

I was in a Hades trial once with another Summoner and both Healers were new, and they got wrecked repeatedly. After a while... I watch the other SMN whip out Titan... and I went... hmmm good idea. Eventually both Healers got their feet back under them but it completely took them off guard the how intense it got right off the bat.

So if you see a Summoner pull out Titan its usually for one of those 3 reasons, healing isn't so good or they have to Hard Cast raise a lot... or they are new to that instance and just learning it.

I actually do recommend that any Summoner that is new to absolute do not summon Titan-Egi under any circumstances.
If there is ever a point that you have to summon it, then it means either your tank, your healer, or you the summoner, are bad

[Silverquick]

I actually do recommend that any Summoner that is new to absolute do not summon Titan-Egi under any circumstances.
If there is ever a point that you have to summon it, then it means either your tank, your healer, or you the summoner, are bad

And what's the other option then? Face plant and continue to wipe? No that is not an "option". The best option is to make it work anyway.

Summoners are NOT a single focus job like a Black Mage is. They are very flexible. Not as Flexible as a Red Mage is, but much more flexible than a Black Mage. You are making a determination based on a narrow minded view that will get the party wrecked if you do it that way ONLY.

For the record here... you can determine REALLY easy what a Summoner is focused on depending on the pet they have out.
They are doing one of Three things...

Ifrit: Single Target Damage
Garuda: AoE or Multi Target Damage
Titan: Damage Mitigation (You know... like a Tank)

They can do ONE of these three things... but not all of them at once. And if a Summoner is forced into Damage Mitigation... there is generally a damn good reason for it.

[DubiousDisk]

And what's the other option then? Face plant and continue to wipe? No that is not an "option". The best option is to make it work anyway.

Summoners are NOT a single focus job like a Black Mage is. They are very flexible. Not as Flexible as a Red Mage is, but much more flexible than a Black Mage. You are making a determination based on a narrow minded view that will get the party wrecked if you do it that way ONLY.

For the record here... you can determine REALLY easy what a Summoner is focused on depending on the pet they have out.
They are doing one of Three things...

Ifrit: Single Target Damage
Garuda: AoE or Multi Target Damage
Titan: Damage Mitigation (You know... like a Tank)

They can do ONE of these three things... but not all of them at once. And if a Summoner is forced into Damage Mitigation... there is generally a damn good reason for it.

There should never be a reason why a Summoner in any content outside of pure solo content be forced into the role of damage mitigation, that's the job of the Tank, and in most other cases the healer.
So I will say it again, if at any point the Summoner has to break out Titan in anything other than solo tanking, then the Tank and the Healer aren't doing their jobs, and the Summoner is better off just reviving one of them immediately if they are dead somehow. So please stop spreading such absolutely horrid advice around.