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  1. #161
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    Elladie's Avatar
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    Elai Khatahdyn
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    You guys have some very strange ideas about what sexualises something/someone. Nudity represents innocence. Even in the Christian bible, nudity represents innocence. Adam and Eve only decide they need clothes when they lose their innocence.

    There is nothing sexual in the normal raid. Nothing at all. Moreover in the Savage raid Hraesvelgr makes an appearance, but not as Shiva's lover, as the other part of Shiva. They are joined as one not because they are lovers but because he literally devoured her - as she asked him to - so that their souls would be entwined eternally. There is nothing sexual inthe actual tale of Shiva and Hraesvelgr, except the lies promulgated by the Ishgardian inquisition who claimed Saint Shiva lay down with dragons.

    Folks seeing this as something sexual are the ones with the problems. I never even noticed what Shiva was wearing in this fight, that's how 'shocking' it isn't. And I'm a mother and a grandmother. To be honest I see young girls of Ryne's age behaving far more provocatively on my way to work in the morning (I drive past a secondary school).
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  2. #162
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    Miki Miphares
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi View Post
    Get psychological help dude and stop projecting your inner feelings onto others. If your pathetic pedophilia example is the very first thing that crosses your mind with this image (and not shared with many others), the problem is clearly YOU and your imagination and not the game or other players who maybe notice the picture yet simply move on with their life WITHOUT any weird thoughts in their head or tingly feelings in the nether region in order to clear content. Again, if the first thing that crosses your mind is naughty stuff and you project it onto others, YOU are the problem.
    It's not a projection thing. Sometimes people have different beliefs on certain subjects. God forbid someone have a different opinion than you. But seriously, Snoo Bunny Bruh, don't accuse people of stuff like that. That's pretty messed up. It's the same as someone accusing you of being a lolicon for not caring and being okay with it. :U

    Not that this really affects me, I cannot really care if Ryne gonna be skimp. Thancred should maybe do his damn job as a dad and punish her for her outfit! >:C
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esther_Miphares View Post
    It's the same as someone accusing you of being a lolicon for not caring and being okay with it. :U
    That...that's literally what's going on...
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    That...that's literally what's going on...
    That was the point...

    It's just a large circle of pointing fingers at each other! We're all the same! We're all terrible people, and accuse others of terrible things! OH THE HUMANITY! (/ T^T)/
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  5. #165
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    I like how everyone's up in arms over 'sexualizing' a minor, but kicking her ass is perfectly fine.
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  6. #166
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    Avi Taro
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    I like how everyone's up in arms over 'sexualizing' a minor, but kicking her ass is perfectly fine.
    Yeah that bothered me more than anything. The whole plan seemed foolish at best and I spent the whole time wondering why WoL was there like um yes this is Fine(tm) I got this I'll just hold back mhm

    Like... what? Why does Ryne need to do this again? What does her little side explanation about showing Eden how to care for the empty have to do with letting herself become the physical embodiment of a re-imagined primal?? I mean congrats on showing Eden how to lose control and try to murder me, that's definitely not something that could come back to bite us. Brilliant idea. Glad the realm's best went along with it. :/
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    Why does Ryne need to do this again? What does her little side explanation about showing Eden how to care for the empty have to do with letting herself become the physical embodiment of a re-imagined primal?
    Thats how the Shiva we know was summoned, so she thinks it might be required to summon an appropriate manifestation of it.

    Nobody really knows how any of this works, shes just kind of winging it.
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Thats how the Shiva we know was summoned, so she thinks it might be required to summon an appropriate manifestation of it.

    Nobody really knows how any of this works, shes just kind of winging it.
    I think it wasn't so much that they thought it was the only way to summon Shiva, but that hearing the story of how Shiva was summoned made Ryne think that maybe she could control the power if she is used as host and then she could teach Eden through their connection somehow someway.
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  9. #169
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    You're playing a Japanese game and in Japan the legal age is 13. Get out of your stupid American laws and thinking everywhere is 18. It's a fricking game where people have flat sausage fingers.

    Now please, go back to jacking off to your schoolgirl fetish porn.
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by LukaRoselia View Post
    in Japan the legal age is 13.
    People keep parroting this, but the fact of the matter is that it's, in essence, a national minimum set in 1907 via the Japanese Penal Code that the various prefectures and municipalities can't go under. It's a hard limit and most, if not all, of the prefectures and municipalities have respective laws that up their respective ages of consent to the general range of sixteen to eighteen, some with caveats like parental permission as well. Even putting those aside, the Child Welfare Act of 1947 defines children as anyone under eighteen years of age (fun fact: age of majority (legal adulthood) has been twenty and has only been recently been lowered to 18 (6/13/18) and that law only goes into effect in April 2022) in Section 1 Definitions, Article 4 (この法律で、児童とは、満十八歳に満たない者をいい), and states in *Section 6 Miscellaneous Provisions*, Article 34 (1) (何人も、次に掲げる行為をしてはならない)。 (vi) (児童に淫行をさせる行為) that fornication/obscene acts with children are illegal (淫行 means fornication, harlotry, or obscenity). So in essence, if you want a basic, ignorant, narrow-minded view of the law, then yes, the age of consent is thirteen. However in reality, and in practice, it's higher than that depending on the specific jurisdiction.

    Quote Originally Posted by LukaRoselia View Post
    Get out of your stupid American laws and thinking everywhere is 18.
    America has no federal age of consent unless it concerns taking, say, a nude selfie (pornography) and a couple other situations, in which case the age is eighteen across the board. Otherwise the age of consent to sexual activity varies between sixteen to eighteen across the states, with a majority having their age at sixteen. Even so, there are typically other factors to consider such as minimum ages and age differentials depending on the state. For example, a minimum age of sixteen might be set in one state, but with consent being limited to folks within a year of age of that minimum. So the sixteen year old can have sex with the seventeen year old, but it would otherwise be illegal if an eighteen year old were to engage in sexual intercourse with that sixteen year old. Or the state could just say, "no sex under this age at all", making it that everyone under, say, seventeen would be committing statutory rape if they were to engage in sexual intercourse.
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