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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicOverlord85 View Post
    Considering Ryne isn’t real, she doesn’t actually have an age, and no one is harmed by anyone being “into” her yeah it doesn’t bother me. It’s almost like I can tell the difference between reality and fiction.
    You are openly stating that you are completely okay with people sexualizing minors even if they're fictional and that there is absolutely nothing telling about it, that it couldn't possibly say anything about said person and what they're into. Someone admitting that they're into fictional children doesn't bother you at all. lol.
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    Just going to say one small thing here.

    Ryne, to our collective knowledge is about 16 years old.

    Age of Consent in Japan is 13. They're not doing anything wrong legally, especially since FFXIV is a Japanese game at heart. Not to mention FFXIV's age-rating going up from 12+ to 18+ with Shadowbringers launch.

    Also. For the "it's fictional, so it's okay". Tell that to all the people who have been convicted of owning / collecting underage material made entirely of drawn children. Just because it's "Not real" doesn't mean it's not a red flag to notify the authorities.
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    Last edited by Kenky; 02-23-2020 at 01:52 AM.

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    You guys should channel all this energy into getting American child beauty pageants banned because those actually impact real children.
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  4. #124
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    I feel like this has become something bigger than it should have been.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    Just going to say one small thing here.

    Ryne, to our collective knowledge is about 16 years old.

    Age of Consent in Japan is 13. They're not doing anything wrong legally, especially since FFXIV is a Japanese game at heart. Not to mention FFXIV's age-rating going up from 12+ to 18+ with Shadowbringers launch.
    "legal" does not mean "moral" though

    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    You guys should channel all this energy into getting American child beauty pageants banned because those actually impact real children.
    Yes they do, but this its own separate yet related problem which doesn't make it any less real. I've had people telling me firsthand stories about how they were groomed into thinking things like this are okay by other adults because this kind of behavior was so normalized.

    It's almost impossible these days to shelter younger people these days from things like this, one day they look up some innocent character and next thing you know they're seeing things that they shouldn't be seeing and it's a very bad gateway to get into. I'm sure we can do better than that at protecting these people.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post
    Yes they do, but this its own separate yet related problem which doesn't make it any less real.
    I'm gonna go on a limb here and say real children being objectified is more real than fake children being objectified.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    I'm gonna go on a limb here and say real children being objectified is more real than fake children being objectified.
    And what happens when real children see it, what happens to the people who get far too comfortable interacting with real children because of what they've been lead to believe is okay. I don't even trust people like that to be on the same planet as my child, they can go somewhere else.
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    Last edited by 3c-33; 02-23-2020 at 02:29 AM.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narangerel View Post
    I feel like this has become something bigger than it should have been.
    And that’s what I’ve been saying. There’s nothing sexual going on in any of these fights, she’s just wearing something skimpy. I think everyone just needs to chill out (pun fully intended) and accept that people are comfortable with different things.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post
    And what happens when real children see it, what happens to the people who get far too comfortable interacting with real children because of what they've been lead to believe is okay. I don't even trust people like that to be on the same planet as my child, they can go somewhere else.
    Ok now I’m legitimately confused as to how this has anything to do with Ryne wearing something skimpy in her Shiva form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post
    You are openly stating that you are completely okay with people sexualizing minors even if they're fictional and that there is absolutely nothing telling about it, that it couldn't possibly say anything about said person and what they're into. Someone admitting that they're into fictional children doesn't bother you at all. lol.
    It may or it may not, depends on the person.
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