The non-gender locked outfits are really jazzy

[SinisterJoints]

Frankly I don't think it's a good look to just paint a group of people as ungrateful brats

If the shoe fits? I understand what you mean, but it doesn't make what was said any less true. This goes for all the groups that ask for something, you get a little bit, then complain its not enough.

That, by definition, is Ungrateful.

It's not that a meaningful discussion cant be had, its that all the attempts to have them result in the same outcome and it all just comes off as ungrateful.

[Avidria]

If the shoe fits? I understand what you mean, but it doesn't make what was said any less true. This goes for all the groups that ask for something, you get a little bit, then complain its not enough.

That, by definition, is Ungrateful.

It's not that a meaningful discussion cant be had, its that all the attempts to have them result in the same outcome and it all just comes off as ungrateful.

I mean yeah, some people are gonna act ungrateful, it's unfortunate but unsurprising. My point is that just immediately grouping everyone who's still unhappy together and writing them off as "entitled snowflakes" or "ungrateful brats" is immediately non-conducive to discussion. It comes off as haughty and dismissive.

I'm just sick of seeing the "y'all are just gonna complain anyway so SE shouldn't do [x]." Not even specifically about any posts in this thread, but I've been seeing it a lot lately all over the forums. Like yeah, people are always gonna complain, that's how people are, everybody is gonna want different things and be pleased/displeased by different things. That doesn't mean you just throw up your hands close the shop and decide nobody gets anything. It's saying exactly that - that nobody should get anything because [x] group of people is acting ungrateful - that I think is petty and spiteful. And dismissive of the people who actually are genuinely happy to be getting anything at all.

But this has gone far enough wide of the topic, and it's way too early in the day for philosophical debates like this. At the end of the day, I'm happy for this change, and I hope more like it come in the future.