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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    just gonna point out that at least one person out there (posted in this thread, in fact) has not done it through grandfathering and has instead bought out an entire ward within the last few months using an FC ownership loophole.
    Imagine being so out of touch that you refuse to believe there is no loophole or even a restriction on FC housing. Broken record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola View Post
    Imagine being so out of touch that you refuse to believe there is no loophole or even a restriction on FC housing. Broken record.
    you're the only broken record around here dude ‾\_(ツ)_/‾
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  4. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    you're the only broken record around here dude ‾\_(ツ)_/‾
    I feel sorry to see people filled with hatred, especially when it's based on a fallacy. You're so deep into it that you can't even come up with a reply. Might want to work on your comebacks by the way.
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  5. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola View Post
    I feel sorry to see people filled with hatred, especially when it's based on a fallacy. You're so deep into it that you can't even come up with a reply. Might want to work on your comebacks by the way.
    I don't see any fallacies around here on my part. And how can anyone tell I'm filled with hatred? That's literally the last thing anyone I know would describe me as being filled with. Anyway I've given up on comebacks with you because there's no reasoning with you, as your justification for buying an entire ward has proven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    I don't see any fallacies around here on my part. And how can anyone tell I'm filled with hatred? That's literally the last thing anyone I know would describe me as being filled with. Anyway I've given up on comebacks with you because there's no reasoning with you, as your justification for buying an entire ward has proven.
    Why you ask, that's a funny one. Given your posting history, you should know by now that there is no loophole involving housing. Or maybe you do know, but it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that you are propagating a myth and have shown 0 interest in correcting that thus far. So what is it? Bitterness? Envy?
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  7. #56
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    I mean, literally look at your signature. You think doing that ain't exploiting a loophole in the system? A loophole is literally defined as an omission or ambiguity in text that allows an evasion of the intended purpose, and I'm pretty sure owning an entire ward and thensome was not something the devs intended people to be able to do after they implemented changes to the system specifically preventing people from doing so.
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  8. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    I mean, literally look at your signature. You think doing that ain't exploiting a loophole in the system? A loophole is literally defined as an omission or ambiguity in text that allows an evasion of the intended purpose, and I'm pretty sure owning an entire ward and thensome was not something the devs intended people to be able to do after they implemented changes to the system specifically preventing people from doing so.
    Square Enix hasn't tried to prevent players from owning more than one FC house except for two weeks. Two weeks... out of the 323 weeks since housing was first introduced. What you call a "loophole" is merely your own interpretation of what the rules should be. Too bad Square Enix obviously disagrees with your opinion. The minority of 2 digits house owners is totally acting within the rules and doesn't need to bypass or transfer leadership around in order to own more than 1 FC house. The truth is that you hate it, which is fine I guess, but there is no reason to be disingenuous and twist the reality to make up false facts.
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    and I feel like in those two weeks they probably found an issue in FC inheritance and that's why they reverted it. If they wanted people to own an absurd amount of houses then wouldn't personals still be able to be owned on alts? You wouldn't have to go through the process of getting multiple FCs across multiple accounts (and you cannot tell me that you don't have multiple accounts considering your ownership right there).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    and I feel like in those two weeks they probably found an issue in FC inheritance and that's why they reverted it. If they wanted people to own an absurd amount of houses then wouldn't personals still be able to be owned on alts? You wouldn't have to go through the process of getting multiple FCs across multiple accounts (and you cannot tell me that you don't have multiple accounts considering your ownership right there).
    An "issue" that strangely coincides with the end of the moratorium on personal housing.

    To me, it looks like they had no good metrics and decided to play it safe. If they didn't want people to "own an absurd amount" of FC houses, they would have done something about it a long time ago since players have been doing it since 2.1

    Personal housing is an entire different thing. There are over 700,000 players that are active enough and qualify to purchase a house, compared to slightly over 100,000 FCs. It's quite obvious that personal housing is the problem when there's slightly more than 350,000 plots and it is most likely why the temporary restriction is only effective for personal housing. Not to mention that personal housing is inherently inferior to FC housing and that FC housing isn't as easily obtainable as spending 20$ to get a boosted character. Oh by the way, Square Enix encourages players to use more than 1 service account because they allow you to stack them on the same SE account.

    In your own words,
    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    ‾\_(ツ)_/‾
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola View Post
    Oh by the way, Square Enix encourages players to use more than 1 service account because they allow you to stack them on the same SE account.
    I'm not certain that point is relevant because it could just as easily be someone that is paying subscriptions for family members. For example, my retired mother has grown quite keen watching me play, so it looks like I'll be getting her a subscription.
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