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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    So I feel that we counter the Immersion elements not being a good reason. Any other reasons that you have that we need this said option?


    If not, this is case closed right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    So I feel that we counter the Immersion elements not being a good reason. Any other reasons that you have that we need this said option?


    If not, this is case closed right?
    No, it is not closed. I can't think of a single instance we fight alongside any NPC with animal suits in the story and have the story itself portray that as a serious scene nor mandatory viewing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    No, it is not closed. I can't think of a single instance we fight alongside any NPC with animal suits in the story and have the story itself portray that as a serious scene nor mandatory viewing.

    I..what...huh? Someone gave you plenty of listing, and heck story events have been outlandish. Also, Silly elements has been part of Final Fantasy History! Are we playing the same game? 0_0


    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It doesn't matter what reasons people provide, you just brush it off as 'silly' and dismiss it. You're set in your ways and are not seeking to budge, as evidenced by you rushing to claim it as 'case closed'.

    I mean if I got a good counter to said reason. I can make that claim about it being silly. I mean, If you are willing to keep saying immersion, after we counter that logic. You are being silly.



    At my post limit Q_Q
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    I..what...huh? Someone gave you plenty of listing, and heck story events have been outlandish. Also, Silly elements has been part of Final Fantasy History! Are we playing the same game? 0_0
    Hildebrand? Squadrons? I don't do either of those, they are not mandatory. They are not MSQ or dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Hildebrand? Squadrons? I don't do either of those, they are not mandatory. They are not MSQ or dungeons.
    In regards to Squadrons, it's worth noting you also get the ability to choose who joins you and who is dismissed. You can also alter their glamout in any way you so wish. Much in the same way as you can control what your retainers look and dress like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Hildebrand? Squadrons? I don't do either of those, they are not mandatory. They are not MSQ or dungeons.
    Why does that matter that you don't do it? That means you don't understand the world little frog. Hop out of that well.


    You can't claim immersion, and not get a full picture of the world and story of the game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Why does that matter that you don't do it? That means you don't understand the world little frog. Hop out of that well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Why does that matter that you don't do it? That means you don't understand the world little frog. Hop out of that well.


    You can't claim immersion, and not get a full picture of the world and story of the game!
    Neither of these are the main overarching story. They never appealed to me. Luckily, in this case, SE gives me the option to not do it. The MSQ, however, does appeal to me. I'm glad you're now trying to decide my immersion for me as well. By that right, you could say anyone who hasn't done every single side quest can't claim immersion. Ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    So how can you pick immersion as your reason, when the world is bigger than what you pick to do? You can't make the immersion claim while ignore the rest of the world and story elements of it because you don't care about it.
    See above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Neither of these are the main overarching story. They never appealed to me. Luckily, in this case, SE gives me the option to not do it. The MSQ, however, does appeal to me. I'm glad you're now trying to decide my immersion for me as well.

    So how can you pick immersion as your reason, when the world is bigger than what you pick to do? You can't make the immersion claim while ignore the rest of the world and story elements of it because you don't care about it.



    You want to look at the game through that bubble that is on you, but the game has more than just the main story that YOU pick to ignore. Just because you ignored said elements does not mean that it is not in the game.



    How can you make the immersion claim, when you don't immersive yourself in all of the story it has to offer. Immersion is to take part of the world even outside of things you are force to do. To understand, and be part of it. You playing one part of the game, and expect the rules to stay with said one part of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    You can't claim immersion, and not get a full picture of the world and story of the game!
    Side activities are side activities. They're completely optional and most people generally don't play the game purely because of Squadrons or Hildibrand. The development team are also acutely aware that Hildibrand style humour is not everybody's cup of tea which is why such things are hidden away in side quests/side activities and not forced on the player. We're also given dialogue options to be dismissive when we do encounter such things.
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