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  1. #1021
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
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    Curiosity killed the cat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    That's because it is intended that way. The people who want the change are minding their business when they get distracted by someones glamour of someone wanting attention and get "stabbed in the eye" by the appearance.
    Learning how to not be distracted isn't hard, people are just refusing to do so because lazy.
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  2. #1022
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    That's because it is intended that way. The people who want the change are minding their business when they get distracted by someones glamour of someone wanting attention and get "stabbed in the eye" by the appearance.
    Think you need to re-read your meme lol.

    If you were minding your own business then you just wouldn't pay attention to the glamour/look through the fence.
    That people have glamoured what they want to wear/are shouting numbers in no way requires any form of response or reaction from you.

    Any negative you experience is because you made choices when you could have just made different choices.
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  3. #1023
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina View Post
    Learning how to not be distracted isn't hard, people are just refusing to do so because lazy.
    I don't think it's laziness.

    I think this thread was born from a strange case of glam elitism. OP wants to be able to unglam players, but they assist in leading a glam based fc. Perhaps they're so obsessed with glams that they get unreasonably annoyed with those they don't personally like.

    As for those who jumped on the wagon, well some very much give the impression that their issue isn't specific clothing, but who can wear certain clothes they think belong only on a certain type of character.

    And some I think are trolls, because some of the comments defending the proposed option began to make less and less sense. I like to believe these comments are attempts at trolling because if someone truly believes some of the inane natter I saw...well...let's just say that is a tad worrying.

    How strange it is to find out that for some people the act of moving their camera or concentrating on a different part of the game is too difficult for them to do. I wonder what it is like to be so transfixed by a glam that you need to ask SE to change the game for you because you cannot control how you react to someone else's outfit.
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  4. #1024
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I wonder what it is like to be so transfixed by a glam that you need to ask SE to change the game for you because you cannot control how you react to someone else's outfit.
    I wonder what it's like to be so anti-choice that you can't even let people have a choice that would benefit them while not hurting anyone.
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  5. #1025
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    So if someone takes uncompromising screenshots of skin I had chosen to hide but they can see it due to unglamming me, then upload them to a public domain, and if I get any harassment from the images...it's somehow my fault for in some way associating myself with this person. Even though all I did was stand there existing in the game, not doing anything to ask for this sort of attention.

    Maybe you're just fortunate enough to not know how bullying really works.
    If someones that keen on bullying you, they can use mods or just create a new character with your face, get it half-naked and take a screenshot. No random is going to do that let's be realistic..
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  6. #1026
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sairys View Post
    Think you need to re-read your meme lol.

    If you were minding your own business then you just wouldn't pay attention to the glamour/look through the fence.
    That people have glamoured what they want to wear/are shouting numbers in no way requires any form of response or reaction from you.

    Any negative you experience is because you made choices when you could have just made different choices.
    While the meme is a result of choice the sentiment is still the same. The people with the loud glamours are the ones in the image shouting to get attention, however, we don't have a choice to not look into the hole and not get poked in the eye.
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  7. #1027
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    If someones that keen on bullying you, they can use mods or just create a new character with your face, get it half-naked and take a screenshot. No random is going to do that let's be realistic..
    Just because they can do that doesn't mean it's okay to give them more tools they can potentially more easily abuse.

    I said many pages ago that I would be able to tolerate the option to turn off glams, if being unglammed put players into modest outfits. I stand by this statement.

    If my glam is not showing off my legs or chest, my unglammed gear should not be either. It is not unreasonable to not want players to be able to reveal skin you chose to hide. If the option to hide glams ever comes to the game, then it should come in a form that is impossible to abuse through taking uncompromising screenshots.

    It's one thing to have someone take lewd screenshots of your glam you chose for yourself. It's another thing altogether if someone undresses you with the unglam option, and then takes lewd screenshots.

    I don't want someone else to be able to undress me. It's that simple.
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  8. #1028
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    While the meme is a result of choice the sentiment is still the same. The people with the loud glamours are the ones in the image shouting to get attention, however, we don't have a choice to not look into the hole and not get poked in the eye.
    Nope, you entirely have the choice to just not pay attention, to mind your own business and move on with your life.
    You're just not making that choice.
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  9. #1029
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sairys View Post
    Nope, you entirely have the choice to just not pay attention, to mind your own business and move on with your life.
    You're just not making that choice.
    Didja miss my story about Gary? It's kinda hard to not pay attention when they're right in your view the whole time.
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  10. #1030
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sairys View Post
    Nope, you entirely have the choice to just not pay attention, to mind your own business and move on with your life.
    You're just not making that choice.
    I wish I had this much control over my mind, being able to control how you react to everything you see, focus your attention on exactly what you want. Gonna need couple of silent retreats to reach that stage of concentration.
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