Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 38
  1. #11
    Player
    MonsutaMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    368
    Character
    Elzen Man
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    um you know it would work proof enough is wows hunter lol in a normal party
    Didn't know SE made a WoW game tbh.....

    I know they made a MMO around that time called Final Fantasy XI, & Beastmaster was a $hit show in that game as a group job.
    (2)

  2. #12
    Player
    LolitaBansheeMeru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Posts
    435
    Character
    Amethyst Orchid
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MonsutaMan View Post
    Didn't know SE made a WoW game tbh.....

    I know they made a MMO around that time called Final Fantasy XI, & Beastmaster was a $hit show in that game as a group job.
    it doesn't matter who makes it the reason people are saying it won't work is because they think since its a mmo it auto doesn't work on some things... also ffxi was way better of a mmo ;p and honestly no it wasn't beastmaster worked great in a group if you knew what you were doing lol....

    also Lets be honest the only excuse that might be legit to say when you say "It wouldn't work" is when it comes to pet jobs the staff of this game unskilled when it comes to pets. They have completely no idea what they are doing and have no idea how to make a pet job correctly.


    The fact is Pet jobs work great in partys and groups more so when unlike wow you don't have "taunt" ability. If you know what your doing when making them they work better than most other jobs in groups.
    (3)
    Last edited by LolitaBansheeMeru; 02-20-2020 at 07:55 AM.

  3. #13
    Player
    Savagelf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    New Gridania
    Posts
    1,712
    Character
    Aribeth Lightbringer
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    let me explain why I want beastmaster to be a limit job and how beast master could be use as way improve summoner and scholar and future jobs such as medic which was one my suggest. beast master allow the devs to play around with pet AI system which at future date they apply to summoner and scholar. it let them work improve it slowly and figure how make a better pets job which they apply to exist pet jobs like summoner and scholar. beast master won't be bound to dungeon and raids like blu which with blue mage the can play around with spell and see which are good spell and which are bad which also can allow them improve black mage and red mages. this why I see limit jobs as test bed for improve exist jobs and we the players will benfit for the devs play around on the limit jobs in long runs.

    are they other jobs I like seen

    ranger a hand weild crossbow job for example
    or medic which my suggest who weild pistol and is mix between chemist and has dog the aid them in heal they party.
    (0)
    Last edited by Savagelf; 02-20-2020 at 08:01 AM.

  4. #14
    Player
    LolitaBansheeMeru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Posts
    435
    Character
    Amethyst Orchid
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    let me explain why I want beastmaster to be a limit job and how beast master could be use as way improve summoner and scholar and future jobs such as medic which was one my suggest. beast master allow the devs to play around with pet AI system which at future date they apply to summoner and scholar. it let them work improve it slowly and figure how make a better pets job which they apply to exist pet jobs like summoner and scholar. beast master won't be bound to dungeon and raids like blu which with blue mage the can play around with spell and see which are good spell and which are bad which also can allow them improve black mage and red mages. this why I see limit jobs as test bed for improve exist jobs and we the players will benfit for the devs play around on the limit jobs in long runs.
    Heres the thing Pet jobs are not complicated on how to make them work How they are complete failures when it comes to pets is behond me...

    People play pet based jobs to depend on the pet for everything as you being the background person...

    Its not as hard as they make it all they have to do to fix the pet jobs is make all every single thing damage wise for summoner revole around the pet its really that simple.
    Same goes as sch same thing just on healing
    with you the player at most using command move sets- and pet buffs

    THe main theme of having a pet is you being the background supporting your minion/minions and isssuing comands like a general or overlord(based on person) not you fighting along side your pet casting heavy magic and heavy range.
    (4)
    Last edited by LolitaBansheeMeru; 02-20-2020 at 08:05 AM.

  5. #15
    Player
    ReiMakoto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Posts
    1,197
    Character
    Rei Makato
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Auryan View Post
    What about Tactics Advanced where it literally revolved on charming random beasts to do anything? I even remember BST having a buddy relationship with BLU where you charmed certain beasts and force it to you use a move so the BLU can learn it. I'd ike it if that dynamic gets translated here.

    And keeping with TA, BST can even borrow the monster bank to keep and raise their collection of beasties. That could be apart of its collection niche.
    You seem to be confusing Beastmaster and Morpher here. Beastmasters could charm a monster for a single round, this wasn't making it a pet it was a one round mind control that was often used to force moves onto blu. The monster bank was a collab between Hunter and Morpher, hunter would capture beasts and put it in the Bank as a Zoo, then if you raised the monster in the Zoo enough, your Morpher could become that monster and share its stats and abilities. None of this implies a Pet based job, as I mentioned FFXI is the only interation which is focus'd on pet based gameplay, unless you count 10-2, where you only had one pet and it functioned like a normal job
    (1)
    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

  6. #16
    Player
    Savagelf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    New Gridania
    Posts
    1,712
    Character
    Aribeth Lightbringer
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    the truth is it not easy as you say first there 3 different type of pet jobs

    1st pet focus job were you pet is the focus everything is focus on pet and not the jobs

    2nd hybrid pet job focus focus on both the pet and the jobs were both benfit for the pet jobs

    2nd one is my pefrer type. see with summoner they could built so you first summon carbruncle as low lvl summon and have high summon to summon ifrit and put they attack with debuff a


    3nd pet isn't important.
    (0)

  7. #17
    Player
    LolitaBansheeMeru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Posts
    435
    Character
    Amethyst Orchid
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    the truth is it not easy as you say first there 3 different type of pet jobs

    1st pet focus job were you pet is the focus everything is focus on pet and not the jobs

    2nd hybrid pet job focus focus on both the pet and the jobs were both benfit for the pet jobs

    2nd one is my pefrer type. see with summoner they could built so you first summon carbruncle as low lvl summon and have high summon to summon ifrit and put they attack with debuff a


    3nd pet isn't important.
    Um well the 2nd one hybrid doesn't work at all it just dumbs down both

    but regardless that doesn't matter

    they could easily put pet jobs into their own setting like they do with mele dps

    for example
    1: pet focus jobs Summoner/puppet master
    2: Hybrid Pet jobs like scholar,Mch
    3: Infusing Pet jobs things like a beastmaster could infuse themself with traits of their pet by dismissing them.

    That doesn't make it hard it just makes it possible to make everyone happy by using all those diffrent pet systems based on the job/class.

    Or they could be reasonable and not enforce any of the methods on us they could let us pick how it works for us using ffxi's merits system.

    which by the way alot of mmos have a pet job for all the types

    some examples or
    Eqs and dark age of camelots necromancers are pure pet users where the pet is buffed and commaned by you

    In wows case You got death knight as your hybrid, you got demonology as your pure pet user/ you got afflication users where the pet isn't importent, you also got the fight along side your pet as equals which is the surivalist in wow.
    (1)
    Last edited by LolitaBansheeMeru; 02-20-2020 at 09:26 AM.

  8. #18
    Player
    MonsutaMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    368
    Character
    Elzen Man
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    it doesn't matter who makes it the reason people are saying it won't work is because they think since its a mmo it auto doesn't work on some things... also ffxi was way better of a mmo ;p and honestly no it wasn't beastmaster worked great in a group if you knew what you were doing lol....

    also Lets be honest the only excuse that might be legit to say when you say "It wouldn't work" is when it comes to pet jobs the staff of this game unskilled when it comes to pets. They have completely no idea what they are doing and have no idea how to make a pet job correctly.


    The fact is Pet jobs work great in partys and groups more so when unlike wow you don't have "taunt" ability. If you know what your doing when making them they work better than most other jobs in groups.
    It does matters, that is why they mentioned BST and limited in the same breathe. They know it would be a balancing nightmare. All signs point to limited, subject to change of course. You can keep dreaming though, not going to stop you....
    (1)

  9. #19
    Player
    VenKitsune's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    461
    Character
    Ven Diclonius
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    The level of BLU activity in PF during 5.1 showed that it was in fact not a waste of time.
    When are BLU's active? When they receive an update.

    When are all the other jobs, non-limited as they are, active? Literally all the time.

    This, my friend, is called wasting our time if they design a job to deliberately be played less.
    (1)
    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

    (Ignore the levels on my character card, the tool i used to make it hasn't been updated for 4.0)

  10. #20
    Player
    Hugowulf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    263
    Character
    Hugo Wolf
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Didn’t you just make this same thread the other week op?
    (1)

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast