Revelations from Patch 5.2

[Khala]

The Sorrow of Werlyt:
This is the first time I'm contemplating not finishing a story arc in all the time I've played.

They could have done many things but bringing back a guy who has never once given a single solitary rip about anyone but Garlemald and his own power is .. odd. He has destroyed countless lives (Fordola, Livia, all of Ala Mhigo - to name a few) and seems to be held hostage (from the sounds of it) or he'd be on the opposing side yet again. And fridging yet more characters (and this first one felt especially bad since we never even saw her face ), whom we've never had a chance to even know makes it hard to feel the emotional impact this should have had. All this while making our character the hand that kills them to further Baelsar's "redemption" arc feels really gross. Am I supposed to feel sorry for him after all he's done? Yeah, no. I'll be honest and say I wish he'd stayed dead and we'd gotten a new character for this story.

MSQ:
I really liked it, and the voice actors have been amazing. I got answers to questions and now I have more questions.

Eden:
I unlocked it but there was so much to do I haven't had a chance to run anything yet.

Beast tribes: scree!

[Alleo]

The Sorrow of Werlyt:
This is the first time I'm contemplating not finishing a story arc in all the time I've played.

They could have done many things but bringing back a guy who has never once given a single solitary rip about anyone but Garlemald and his own power is .. odd. He has destroyed countless lives (Fordola, Livia, all of Ala Mhigo - to name a few) and seems to be held hostage (from the sounds of it) or he'd be on the opposing side yet again. And fridging yet more characters (and this first one felt especially bad since we never even saw her face ), whom we've never had a chance to even know makes it hard to feel the emotional impact this should have had. All this while making our character the hand that kills them to further Baelsar's "redemption" arc feels really gross. Am I supposed to feel sorry for him after all he's done? Yeah, no. I'll be honest and say I wish he'd stayed dead and we'd gotten a new character for this story.

About this:

I have not done it (low ilvl) but I agree with you. I at least liked it how aggressive our character was towards him. Yes he is now working with us but seemingly only because of a common goal. He was still all "Varis" when the emporer was killed and he did a lot of bad stuff to us..if we had not stopped him he would have used that horrible weapon against Eorzea no matter if Lahabrea was more than he thought.

Please SE dont let him be the one that will take over the government of Garlemald..please let it be someone nice like Maxima who already wanted change and peace without some kind of vengence as a driving point

MSQ

More speculation...

"I will keep these 'heroes' mired in the First, and victory will be ours at the last. Warriors of Darkness now, are they? Then their fate is decided. They shall meet the same end as those who came before--death at the hands of Warriors of Light!"

At the time I guessed he meant he was going to bring WoL from other shards (like the void) to face the "threat" of the WoD somehow. But given what we see him doing now, it seems like his end-game here after awakening all these new "Warriors of Light" is to turn them on us instead. (This way also he doesn't have to face us in a direct confrontation and so risk himself -- he just manipulates things to the outcome he wants.)

A lot of this patch focused on us meeting up with various people who we helped along the way who pledged they'd never forget what we did for them and for the world. But it also focused on how, after the flood of light happened, all the good deeds of the past Warriors of Light were quickly forgotten to assign them all the blame (and that an accurate version of history got basically blotted out by bias). Taking all these points in composite, the question seems to be: what sort of calamity could cause the new army of heroes of the First to turn against us?

I guess that could also be his plan but at the same time I have a hard time seeing how they would fit so much into the remaining patches because I am not sure if we deal with in the next expansion.

You are right that people did forget the good deeds quite fast but we have to remember that unlike us who saved the whole rest of the shard they were in the end just normal heros for them. They dealt with some bigger issuses just like we did and saved quite a few but it was not on the scale we did. Also the lesson I think that they wanted to teach the NPCs was to not accept everything at face value and to not forget the good parts. If they then suddenly would just turn around as soon as we may have done something "bad" in their eyes it would destroy that lesson quite fast. Also it would be really bad if they simply just listen to only Ardbert but ignore our reasons..we who saved them all.

In the end it took Ardberts full group becoming WoLs to tip the scale too fast and right now none of the people are even WoLs.