It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[SamRF]

Correct, because my preferences goes with what an mmo is, and your need to avoid what people want to look like tends to lean more toward single player rpgs.

This game certainly plays like a single player rpg tbh.

[Theodric]

That speaks volumes on your thinking skills. I'm sorry, but how can you not understand what a MMO are, and how removing an social element is bad?

MMO's, by their very nature, attract a lot of different players. Many of whom may never opt to interact with each other by choice. Many players opt not to socialise at all and instead play on a solo basis outside of mandatory group battles. The development team are well aware of that fact and have gradually adjusted the MSQ's to be much more solo friendly than they used to be.

So there isn't anything inherently bad about removing social elements from the game. The people who want to socialise are going to do so. The ones who do not wish to socialise will have another tool to help them play the game their way.

[Jadedsins]

giving players a choice does not in the slightest equal "removing" ANY social element.

your concept of removal is it hides whatever you "believe" people should see you as, yet some would rather choose not to, but only you are making a fit that "they should see me this way, and not be given a choice if they want to play a more imerrsive game to their own concept"

Only I should be able to pick what I look like. Not other players. People who want to remove this is using immersion as a excuse. The game has silly elements in it, and it is in the realm of the lore to have adventurers dress up like this.



So I'm just going to straight up and say it. I don't want you to have the option. When you look at me, I want you to see what I pick you to see. That is all.

[Senliten]

Only I should be able to pick what I look like. Not other players. People who want to remove this is using immersion as a excuse. The game has silly elements in it, and it is in the realm of the lore to have adventurers dress up like this.

lore does not make good reasoning either mind you. see smn for that or any other lore contrived reason that conflicts with the actual system itself

not to mention, games an RPG ROLE PLAYING GAME immersion is a staple for this genre.

[Theodric]

Only I should be able to pick what I look like. Not other players. People who want to remove this is using immersion as a excuse. The game has silly elements in it, and it is in the realm of the lore to have adventurers dress up like this.

You look like however you choose on your own screen. So you're not losing anything.

Furthermore, those 'silly elements' were only added due to people asking for them to be added. The game actually embraced realism to a significant extent earlier on. It's the nature of an evolving game. Even then, the 'silly' glamour is rarely used in the MSQ and is typically hidden away in side content as an opt in feature.

Though there's no reason to deny other players the ability to have the game tweaked to their tastes, too. Especially if it's client side and doesn't affect you in any way.

[Jadedsins]

I don't dress up just for myself but for how other people see me. I mean that is what is fun about dressing up.


Also, it is strange that some of you speak about immersion, but ignore the lore of the game. What type of immersion are you talking about?

[Theodric]

If we're going by the lore of the game...people who run around in ridiculous outfits are treated like complete imbeciles. You see Hildibrand treated as such. You see the elezen in a frog suit in Il Mheg treated as such. You see Oboro treated as such when he's made to wear Jacke's choice of attire during the Ninja quests. There's countless other examples strewn about too.

In the more extreme cases, such as Hildibrand, the development team are well aware that such things are not the cup of tea for many players. Which is exactly why they're few and far between as well as often entirely optional. Players are often given the option to be as serious or silly as they like during the dialogue choices offered to them.

Which is the key word. Choice.

There's nothing wrong with giving players more choice to filter things to their liking.

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

If we're going by the lore of the game...people who run around in ridiculous outfits are treated like complete imbeciles. You see Hildibrand treated as such. You see the elezen in a frog suit in Il Mheg treated as such. You see Oboro treated as such when he's made to wear Jacke's choice of attire during the Ninja quests. There's countless other examples strewn about too.

In the more extreme cases, such as Hildibrand, the development team are well aware that such things are not the cup of tea for many players. Which is exactly why they're few and far between as well as often entirely optional. Players are often given the option to be as serious or silly as they like during the dialogue choices offered to them.

Which is the key word. Choice.

There's nothing wrong with giving players more choice to filter things to their liking.

This is a waste of resources, move along.

[Senliten]

This is a waste of resources, move along.

Why? Because you say so? Do you even see how dismissive you are becomming?

[Jadedsins]

If we're going by the lore of the game...people who run around in ridiculous outfits are treated like complete imbeciles. You see Hildibrand treated as such. You see the elezen in a frog suit in Il Mheg treated as such. You see Oboro treated as such when he's made to wear Jacke's choice of attire during the Ninja quests. There's countless other examples strewn about too.

In the more extreme cases, such as Hildibrand, the development team are well aware that such things are not the cup of tea for many players. Which is exactly why they're few and far between as well as often entirely optional. Players are often given the option to be as serious or silly as they like during the dialogue choices offered to them.

Which is the key word. Choice.

There's nothing wrong with giving players more choice to filter things to their liking.

I mean nothing is stopping you from treating people who wear what you don't like any way you want. But you made my point for me. The game allows people to dress how they want. They get treated base off how they dress. So how you dress matters, and supports immersion. Thank you.