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    BarretOblivion's Avatar
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    So the Big Buff to WAR was....

    A Shake it off mitigation increase.
    *scratches head*
    SE, you missed the target with the WAR buff. You could have buffed Nascent flash and made it a bit better of an OT skill with maybe 75% healing on the other tank or increasing its duration.
    Could have given small potency buffs to WAR to make up for the DH/Crit it has making it weak in certain compositions. You could have buffed its self healing aspect a bit.
    But no... you buffed... the one thing that no one really is going to care about. Shake it off...
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    Aside from crit/dhit dilemma there were 4 adjustments I was hoping for:

    1) Being able to cast NF on myself (obvious)
    2) Storm's eye duration extended to 45 seconds
    3) Onslaught getting second charge
    4) Upheaval damage scaling up with your hp so you can boost it with thrill of battle just like before
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    I feel bad for warrior players, not being one I really think they needed buffs l. Well SE is known for not giving a sjit about what players want.
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    Fairy-queen Titania
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    No wonder they wouldn't release the patch notes. Wonder how this goes the next few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    A Shake it off mitigation increase.
    *scratches head*
    SE, you missed the target with the WAR buff. You could have buffed Nascent flash and made it a bit better of an OT skill with maybe 75% healing on the other tank or increasing its duration.
    Could have given small potency buffs to WAR to make up for the DH/Crit it has making it weak in certain compositions. You could have buffed its self healing aspect a bit.
    But no... you buffed... the one thing that no one really is going to care about. Shake it off...
    I suspect the buff was actually to give it more parity with Divine Veil as the buff sacrifice quirk isn't very usable with all the double/split/shared tankbusters in ShB raids necessitating OT usage of cooldowns.

    NF isn't actually getting used properly which is likely why they are not buffing it, many ShB changes were done to downplay raid comp benefits, and Self Healing doesn't scale well with fight design (to little and it is useless, to much and it makes the tank immortal)

    Quote Originally Posted by Superstructure View Post
    Aside from crit/dhit dilemma there were 4 adjustments I was hoping for:

    1) Being able to cast NF on myself (obvious)
    Unlikely as Raw Intuition is what SE intends as Warrior's short cooldown. Nascent Flash is just intended to be the single target assist buff.

    2) Storm's eye duration extended to 45 seconds
    I think the most you can reasonably hope for is 35s.

    3) Onslaught getting second charge
    I don't think any gauge spenders currently get charges.

    4) Upheaval damage scaling up with your hp so you can boost it with thrill of battle just like before
    Unlikely as SE has moved away from abilities that would cause differences in dps when MTing and OTing.
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    Lucy Pyre
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Superstructure View Post
    Aside from crit/dhit dilemma there were 4 adjustments I was hoping for:

    1) Being able to cast NF on myself (obvious)
    2) Storm's eye duration extended to 45 seconds
    3) Onslaught getting second charge
    4) Upheaval damage scaling up with your hp so you can boost it with thrill of battle just like before
    1. This should be done, agreed.
    2. While I don't think this is necessary, if it were to happen I think 40 seconds is the highest you could ask for since Samurai got similar changes to its self-buffs in ShB.
    3. It works via gauge spending, it will never get charges. There isn't a single instance in the Eden's Gate savage tier where you needed to gap close more than twice in ten seconds, and I doubt there will be one in Eden's Verse.
    4. This is a horrendous idea. It's terrible on Spirit's Within for Paladin as well. Let this kind of design die out as it should.
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    *walks away into the sunset*
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    Thepale Rider
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    Wars definitely needs buffs.
    They lost way too much this expansion and gained far too little.
    Granted, I actually appreciate the shake it off buff.
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    I didn’t expect much, but holy shit, I was still disappointed!
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    Like crap, why Shake it Off? Did they think it would someohow make WAR overtake PLD in party mitigation? Did they forget PLD has 2 party wide skills to reduce damage (not counting reprisal).
    1<2.
    This buff didn't help WAR at all.
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